Re: Signature Events Strategy for 2017 (Part II: FUDCon)

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On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Brian Exelbierd <bex@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>> Matthew Miller píše v St 11. 01. 2017 v 05:54 -0500:
>> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:41:24AM +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>> > > > Finally, I believe these events do not need to be standalone.  I
>> > > > think they can have greater impact when collocated with other
>> > > > conferences or run as "+1 days" to other events.  While this
>> > > > shouldn't be a requirement, I think it is a good practice to
>> > > > encourage.
>> > >
>> > > while there might some economies of scale and this option always
>> > > looks
>> > > very appealing to people, I have almost never seen an event where
>> > > it
>> > > brought a lot of benefit. The specialized co-located event never
>> > > attracted anyone from the larger event and people who came for the
>> > > specialized event were usually too busy to attend the larger event.
>> > > And if it's organized as "+1 day" event, it means people have to
>> > > stay
>> > > longer to benefit from both, thus lodging costs go up.
>> > > I think the only exception was GNOME.Asia+FUDCon APAC 2014. Two
>> > > smaller
>> > > events got together and created something big enough to attract
>> > > sponsors and visitors from far away. It also worked because
>> > > GNOME+Fedora is a combination that makes sense and there is an
>> > > overlap
>> > > in contributors. I'm one of those who contribute to both.
>> >
>> >
>> > So, this argues against things like "Tack a FUDCon onto FOSDEM", but
>> > maybe we can do more combined events with other projects, making
>> > bigger-than-Fedora open source conferences where those don't already
>> > exist?
>>
>> Yes, something like this. But the combination has to make sense.
>> Upstream projects who are important for Fedora and Fedora is important
>> for them are ideal. Organizing events together with for example other
>> distributions IMHO doesn't work. A couple of years ago, they organized
>> LinuxDays (general Linux conference)+openSUSE Conference+Gentoo
>> miniconf in Prague and it didn't really work. The distro tracks didn't
>> really attract anyone from the general audience or from the other
>> distro tracks.
>> Then it's like the quote from Red Dwarf:
>> "Two bodies who share the same space but are unaware of each other's
>> existence." :)
>>
>> Fedora+CentOS may be a different case, but it also doesn't always have
>> to work, the two audiences also don't naturally melt in as I could
>> observe at DevConf.cz.
>
> Do we have any experience with adding a Fedora themed event to or on to
> a non-project focused event, like a developer conference?

We do not.

josh
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