Re: [council] #58: Regional allocation for FY17 budget

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#58: Regional allocation for FY17 budget
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 Reporter:  mattdm   |       Owner:
   Status:  new      |    Priority:  major
Component:  General  |  Resolution:
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Comment (by mattdm):

 Replying to [comment:7 cwickert]:
 > Their LATAM request was lower because they have learned their lesson of
 overbudgeting and underspending. APAC has overbudgeted way more, so I
 really think it's unfair to give LATAM less just because they are more
 realistic now.

 That's hard to disagree with. :)

 > AFAIR we approved the [https://pagure.io/fedora-
 budget/blob/master/f/FY17/adjustedannualbudgets/council/scenarios.txt#_25
 hF/hDI scenario], which leaves USD 74,500 for regional support. The
 numbers above add up to USD 73,500, so there is a 1k margin. We could
 either

 Oh. Langdon, you were supposed to check my math. :)

 That does make this easier, though. I guess if we are looking at $15k for
 APAC FUDCon but holding LATAM to $10k, my inclination is to just add the
 overlooked $1k to LATAM.


 > > Can you help me understand why this can't just be ''continuously''
 kept up to date, though, making it just a matter of taking a snapshot?
 >
 > I'm afraid I'm lost. You said the regions report quarterly splits after
 we approve the top-level allocation. This is a yearly thing, and so is the
 event planning in the regions. Therefor I assumed the quarterly splits
 were a yearly thing, too. Once a year, right tell the regions how much
 money they get and in return, they tell us how they plan to spend it
 throughout the quarters. How would one make this continuously?

 This is new, but we're also asking for quarterly updates and re-balancing
 from the regions. That way, we a) realize if we're getting out of sync
 before we get to the end of the year and b) can re-prioritize if needed.


 > The easiest thing to do when you have money left at the end of the FY is
 to buy swag and save it for next year. This makes planning a lot easier:
 You don't have to worry about swag or about budget cuts. I'm not saying we
 should burn money, we should only buy swag we really need. As swag
 production happens on a regional level, the budget would remain there.

 I'm not sold on this. There are a lot of other things which might be more
 valuable overall to the project than swag, and it'd be nice to at least be
 able to consider them.

 > Only if a region has no other use for their budget, the council should
 claim it for other activities or regions. It is on the budget owner to
 have an eye on the spending and get touch with the regions if necessary. I
 would rather ask if we can use a region's unused budget than automatically
 reallocate it. In fact, quarterly reallocation can be counter-productive
 as it encourages regions to spend money on less meaningful stuff not only
 on a yearly but quarterly base.

 I don't think "no other use" is right at all. It should be _good_ use
 (both at quarter end and always).

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