#58: Regional allocation for FY17 budget ---------------------+-------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: major Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: | ---------------------+-------------------- Comment (by cwickert): Replying to [comment:6 mattdm]: > LATAM definitely came out the lowest here by any measure. That's largely because their ''request'' was significantly lower than that from the other regions, which doesn't really seem like a good reason to penalize. Their LATAM request was lower because they have learned their lesson of overbudgeting and underspending. APAC has overbudgeted way more, so I really think it's unfair to give LATAM less just because they are more realistic now. > Do you have a concrete alternate proposal? AFAIR we approved the [https://pagure.io/fedora- budget/blob/master/f/FY17/adjustedannualbudgets/council/scenarios.txt#_25 hF/hDI scenario], which leaves USD 74,500 for regional support. The numbers above add up to USD 73,500, so there is a 1k margin. We could either * give it to LATAM * divide it by all four regions * split among LATAM and APAC * give APAC and LATAM the same amount, then it would match the [https://pagure.io/fedora- budget/blob/master/f/FY17/adjustedannualbudgets/council/scenarios.txt#_119 historic percentages]. > Can you help me understand why this can't just be ''continuously'' kept up to date, though, making it just a matter of taking a snapshot? I'm afraid I'm lost. You said the regions report quarterly splits after we approve the top-level allocation. This is a yearly thing, and so is the event planning in the regions. Therefor I assumed the quarterly splits were a yearly thing, too. Once a year, right tell the regions how much money they get and in return, they tell us how they plan to spend it throughout the quarters. How would one make this continuously? > The goal is to make sure that the budgeted funds are actually all spent (in meaningful ways, of course). It isn't to penalize the region for underspending. I'm okay with modifying the above to say that regions can do their own internal quarter-to-quarter reallocation of unspent money as long as it is reported up (and as long as it really does end up being made use of). But if the region ''doesn't'' have a solid plan, we do still have plenty of central needs (or possibly there's a strong unplanned need in another region). The easiest thing to do when you have money left at the end of the FY is to buy swag and save it for next year. This makes planning a lot easier: You don't have to worry about swag or about budget cuts. I'm not saying we should burn money, we should only buy swag we really need. As swag production happens on a regional level, the budget would remain there. Only if a region has no other use for their budget, the council should claim it for other activities or regions. It is on the budget owner to have an eye on the spending and get touch with the regions if necessary. I would rather ask if we can use a region's unused budget than automatically reallocate it. In fact, quarterly reallocation can be counter-productive as it encourages regions to spend money on less meaningful stuff not only on a yearly but quarterly base. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/council/ticket/58#comment:7> council <https://fedorahosted.org/council> Fedora Council Public Tickets _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.
