-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/29/2014 10:24 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Haïkel <hguemar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> to be short, board-discuss is indeed a public list but it's >> still rather confidential. I may be wrong, but I expect more >> reactions when it'll be posted on announce or high-level traffic >> lists. > > Not sure where to jump in here but this seems as good a spot as > any. I agree with Haïkel that there is likely to be a much more > vigorous engagement with the community when whatever we decide to > do gets announced widely. I don't think very many people pay > attention to this list and many who I know are interested don't > have the stamina to monitor discussions like this very closely over > time. > > I have a couple of comments about the specific proposal that I'll > just drop in here too. > > * Regarding the Diversity Advisor, it is a bit hard to comment > without knowing anything specific about who would fill this role > but assuming it is a diversity specialist of some sort I do not > think that role should be a voting member of this body but am fine > with it being an advisory member where things the body is > considering impact diversity issues. > > * Regarding the general composition of this body I see this > resulting habitually in a body almost entirely composed of Red Hat > employees with the possibility of one or two contributors who don't > work full time on Fedora participating. While this likely has some > practical benefits furthering the goals of the project it feels to > me like an admission of defeat in the big picture. I already hear > "Why would I contribute to Fedora, that is like working for Red Hat > for free?" and I fear the message this structure will send to > potential contributors will reinforce that feeling making it even > harder for us to develop a community around this project. Perhaps > getting more exciting stuff done will create a more interesting > place to contribute too. So I'm not totally negative about this but > I am not a big fan at this point either. > I'd actually like to address both of these points with a single answer. I liked Haikel's idea earlier in this thread about seeking out a diversity specialist for this role, potentially someone not previously involved with Fedora and Red Hat (and therefore without existing biases). My perspective on this is that while seeking diversity in culture, gender and field of expertise is important, but so too should be working on improving the Project's engagement with a wider user and contributor base. In my mind, drawing more women to the Fedora Project should be on equal footing with drawing more casual and external participation in the Project, and that the position should explicitly address that. You're right; we need to be careful that the project does not become too homogeneous; as the old saying goes, "If three people always agree, two of them are redundant". I think that's very much a Diversity topic. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlQplz4ACgkQeiVVYja6o6MBgACff3VfRUVj6vuNmPdV7iNECC1x 1ukAoKHFI1kz21f4Q/hMeCK82hQfK8kG =g0J1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss
