2014-09-26 21:48 GMT+02:00 Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > I think this is where this breaks down. If the Council and FPL is > going to make strategic changes that impact the entire community then > they cannot decide those things without a lot of discussion. Doing > that in a limited attendance setting like Flock doesn't seem > appropriate, even if they were presented beforehand. > > Let's not repeat past mistakes. Decisions are not made at Flock/FUDCon. > we agree on that part, Flock is the place to discuss things, not deciding them. > Except that isn't what happens at Flock. Ideas are generated or > discussed at Flock, and then they are presented to the community for > discussion and refinement. Take this entire Board rework proposal for > example. We're still working through it almost 2 months later and > unless magic happens it will probably be another month before we > actually officially change things. (Frankly, I'm hoping for magic). > > So if you align things with Flock, you're still looking at 15 months > minimum before we reach consensus. 18 months for goal seats is not > unreasonable. > Well, you're right scheduling things in a distributed community is hard. Then, do we all agree that agree that goal definition should happen after discussions at flock ? What I fear with a totally disconnected schedule, is that goals are discussed in even smaller circles than Flock. For the record, according fedmsg, we had 1.4k active contributors (using a liberal definition of active), and Flock gathers 250 people so approximatively 1/5 of active contributors are there. There isn't a best place for these kind of discussions for us. I'm sorry that it may sounds like nitpicking -overall, I think the proposal is *good*- but as soon as it will be submitted to public criticism, they'll be harsher than I am. H. > josh > _______________________________________________ > board-discuss mailing list > board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss
