#9: board vote on reorganization proposals ---------------------+--------------------- Reporter: mattdm | Owner: Status: new | Priority: normal Component: General | Resolution: Keywords: | ---------------------+--------------------- Comment (by cwickert): A: +1 B: 0 C: +1 * A: Council representatives should not only be elected on a elected at the committee level, but also the * A: Council should not only be advisory to the FPL but members should vote about issues. FPL strives for consensus, has the casting vote and veto powers. Basically just like today; I don't want to change the role of the FPL but I'm afraid the wording or the proposal makes it sound too powerful. * A: Even in the Flock proposal, we should investigate additional governance roles originally suggested in proposal B, in particular more direct handling of community budget. * A: On the other hand, the council should hand over certain tasks to other bodies, in particular executive tasks and administration and everything we consider governance. * B: If we continue with the board, I'm afraid we will have a hard time finding candidates, * as the new council is 'the place to be' and * as we need even more of them if the board would be fully elected. * If we have a board and a council, we will run into problems defining the with responsibilities of each body. * C: Sounds '''very''' compelling, but also vague. We should remove red tape wherever and when ever possible, but in some situations we need to make a decision and that requires clear rules. * C: I think lazy consensus will work most of the times, but for a community of Fedora's size, 72 hours probably is not enough time to speak up. I'm afraid it will lead to a stronger dominance of people working on Fedora full-time (a.k.a. Red Hatters). * A vs. B: I '''strongly''' prefer a single committee. Seems so do most others, nevertheless proposal A is at -2 atm. At FLOCK it seemed to have a lot of support, so I wonder if it is phrased badly. * Last but not least a new and possibly crazy idea: Today the board is half elected and half appointed. How about a new body, that is half elected as today, but the other half is elected/appointed on a committee level? I think this would combine the advantage proposals the council (having all stakeholders in the group) with the board (democratic legitimization through election) and at the same time minimize the problems of lazy consensus (dominance of a few). -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/9#comment:7> board <https://fedorahosted.org/board> Fedora Project Board Public Tickets _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss