Re: [board] #9: board vote on reorganization proposals

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#9: board vote on reorganization proposals
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 Reporter:  mattdm   |       Owner:
   Status:  new      |    Priority:  normal
Component:  General  |  Resolution:
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Comment (by cwickert):

 A: +1
 B: 0
 C: +1

 * A: Council representatives should not only be elected on a elected at
 the committee level, but also the
 * A: Council should not only be advisory to the FPL but members should
 vote about issues. FPL strives for consensus, has the casting vote and
 veto powers. Basically just like today; I don't want to change the role of
 the FPL but I'm afraid the wording or the proposal makes it sound too
 powerful.
 * A: Even in the Flock proposal, we should investigate additional
 governance roles originally suggested in proposal B, in particular more
 direct handling of community budget.
 * A: On the other hand, the council should hand over certain tasks to
 other bodies, in particular executive tasks and administration and
 everything we consider governance.

 * B: If we continue with the board, I'm afraid we will have a hard time
 finding candidates,
  * as the new council is 'the place to be' and
  * as we need even more of them if the board would be fully elected.
 * If we have a board and a council, we will run into problems defining the
 with responsibilities of each body.

 * C: Sounds '''very''' compelling, but also vague. We should remove red
 tape wherever and when ever possible, but in some situations we need to
 make a decision and that requires clear rules.
 * C: I think lazy consensus will work most of the times, but for a
 community of Fedora's size, 72 hours probably is not enough time to speak
 up. I'm afraid it will lead to a stronger dominance of people working on
 Fedora full-time (a.k.a. Red Hatters).

 * A vs. B: I '''strongly''' prefer a single committee. Seems so do most
 others, nevertheless proposal A is at -2 atm. At FLOCK it seemed to have a
 lot of support, so I wonder if it is phrased badly.

 * Last but not least a new and possibly crazy idea: Today the board is
 half elected and half appointed. How about a new body, that is half
 elected as today, but the other half is elected/appointed on a committee
 level? I think this would combine the advantage proposals the council
 (having all stakeholders in the group) with the board (democratic
 legitimization through election) and at the same time minimize the
 problems of lazy consensus (dominance of a few).

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