Matt, do you want me to express a vote even though I'm not on the board / counted vote? I have not given this. Carl. On 09/09/2014 12:01 PM, board wrote: > #9: board vote on reorganization proposals > ---------------------+--------------------- > Reporter: mattdm | Owner: > Status: new | Priority: normal > Component: General | Resolution: > Keywords: | > ---------------------+--------------------- > > Comment (by cwickert): > > A: +1 > B: 0 > C: +1 > > * A: Council representatives should not only be elected on a elected at > the committee level, but also the > * A: Council should not only be advisory to the FPL but members should > vote about issues. FPL strives for consensus, has the casting vote and > veto powers. Basically just like today; I don't want to change the role of > the FPL but I'm afraid the wording or the proposal makes it sound too > powerful. > * A: Even in the Flock proposal, we should investigate additional > governance roles originally suggested in proposal B, in particular more > direct handling of community budget. > * A: On the other hand, the council should hand over certain tasks to > other bodies, in particular executive tasks and administration and > everything we consider governance. > > * B: If we continue with the board, I'm afraid we will have a hard time > finding candidates, > * as the new council is 'the place to be' and > * as we need even more of them if the board would be fully elected. > * If we have a board and a council, we will run into problems defining the > with responsibilities of each body. > > * C: Sounds '''very''' compelling, but also vague. We should remove red > tape wherever and when ever possible, but in some situations we need to > make a decision and that requires clear rules. > * C: I think lazy consensus will work most of the times, but for a > community of Fedora's size, 72 hours probably is not enough time to speak > up. I'm afraid it will lead to a stronger dominance of people working on > Fedora full-time (a.k.a. Red Hatters). > > * A vs. B: I '''strongly''' prefer a single committee. Seems so do most > others, nevertheless proposal A is at -2 atm. At FLOCK it seemed to have a > lot of support, so I wonder if it is phrased badly. > > * Last but not least a new and possibly crazy idea: Today the board is > half elected and half appointed. How about a new body, that is half > elected as today, but the other half is elected/appointed on a committee > level? I think this would combine the advantage proposals the council > (having all stakeholders in the group) with the board (democratic > legitimization through election) and at the same time minimize the > problems of lazy consensus (dominance of a few). > _______________________________________________ board-discuss mailing list board-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/board-discuss
