Re: propsal summaries, moving forward [was Re: [Request for Comments] Governance change for Fedora Project]

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Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: 
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:11:09AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > Reminder:  If you have questions on either of the current proposals,
> > > or would like to make an alternative proposal, please make sure to
> > > send them by the end of this week.
> > My alternative proposal is as stated earlier in the thread - the change to
> > the council is fine, but I'd suggest it still be vested with decision-making
> > power, rather than a mere advisory role.
> 
> The repercussions of this difference area big enough that I think it should
> be considered a separate proposal -- it makes the composition of the
> council and selection of representatives a much more crucial part of the
> question.

... how so? This isn't obvious to me from reading the proposal, and reading
the meeting logs. Is the concern that if the council has actual
decision-making power that it needs to be fully represenative of all teams
(proportionally or otherwise)?  I understand the idea there, but even at the
advisory council we should be working towards as much representation as
possible.

In fact, when I read parts of the proposals as written, such as in your mail:

>    - Keeps all current responsibilies of board
>      - some things, like trademarks and community dispute resolution
>       may be delegated to subcommittees

or from Haïkel's mail:

> * the community council will be the main governance body of the Fedora
> Project, its role will be to define a shared vision accross the
> project and the highest decision-making power. That also includes
> technical decisions.

... these statements both seem incompatible with a merely advisory board.

Bill
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