On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 11:44 -0500, inode0 wrote: > > http://lwn.net/Articles/488900/ > > I don't really see this article as evidence the media agrees with > anything. It is an article reporting on what was happening at the time > within Fedora. Most of the comments aren't even on topic and the ones > that are seem pretty mild to my ears. Here's some examples of media and comments from outside the Fedora community: "Fedora 17 arrived on Tuesday following a three-week delay. Nicknamed Beefy Miracle, the Fedora Project promised 'over and under-the-bun improvements that show off the power and flexibility of the advancing state of free software.' That's a bold claim for a package with such a ridiculous name. " Gavin Clarke, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/30/fedora_17_review/ "I tend to think that name is nearly as bad as "Beefy Miracle" (the codename Fedora 17 has). And I think the link between the two (¹) is nearly as dubious as the one between F16 and F17 :-/ I got the feeling the codenames for Fedora(²) (and RHL) that were selected by some Red Hat engineers internally tended to be better more often than those that got selected by Fedora contributors in a vote. I wonder if Fedora should get (back?) to a model where a few experienced and a few new contributors (those that do a lot of work) get to suggest names (with input from the community) and decide the final one when legal gave their blessing to a few. Sure, that is not a democratic way, but hey, there is a reasons why meritocratic is used in so many open source projects." Thorsten Leemhuis, https://plus.google.com/107616711159256259828/posts/Nxc6kH4UCod "I suggest that the name of Fedora 19 be "Fedora 19", and that Red Hat give half of the money this proposal saves them in legal bills to charity and the other half to their stockholders. If a code name is required, "Nineteen" will do. " "Exactly. Codenames are nice if you have good marketing and people connect the product with the name. Fedora does not do that. So Red hat should just remove the silly names. " http://lwn.net/Articles/510090/ "Linux Mint has always been known for beatiful female names. Ubuntu for exotic and obscure ones. And finally, Fedora, for weird and sometimes ugly ones. " Commenter, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Fedora-17-Will-Be-Named-Beefy-Miracle-226873.shtml "Such a revulsive name and concept, to find marketing strategies in dead animal meat." Commenter, http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/the-beefy-miracle-begins.-fedora-17-hits-alpha-1.html "Dumb name. Back handed insult to Hindus and Vegetarians." Commenter, http://opensource.com/life/12/5/whats-beefy-miracle-anyway-story-fedora-17-release-name "Holy cow. Seriously, what is up with these silly names?" Commenter, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?70700-Fedora-18-Is-Codenamed-The-Spherical-Cow&highlight=spherical+cow "how about fixing pulseaudio instead of thinking up meat product names" "This is indeed as unprofessional as hell. How hard is it to find some random normal codenames? Pick random flowergarden name (as opposed to walled garden), from which beauty blossoms." "I personally am tired with this whole codename concept. To me, code names are absolutely useless." "Who would have thought that a naming process open to the general public would degenerate into 4chan-style retardation? Okay, so a lot of people (including myself) probably did, but look how long it took!" "This list is embarrassing, especially as a Fedora user. "I agree, the way code names are in Fedora are useless. They do not really symbolize anything about the particular release. The ubuntu codenames are just as silly as "Beefy Miracle" and this list, but at least they mean something to the particular release. They certainly are much better about it than just letting a bunch of random people come up with an idiotic name and voting for them, that is the sad part, people actually voted for them." "I imagine just how depressing it is to look for a representative names in the sea of such nonsense... " "Embarrassing." Various commenters, http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?70496-Fedora-18-Might-Be-A-Frankfurter-Or-Spherical-Cow&highlight=spherical+cow ""Spherical Cow" /FACEPALM !" "They should have just called it "Silly Name"." Commenters, http://news.softpedia.com/news/Fedora-18-Will-Be-Named-Spherical-Cow-267294.shtml "That's got to be the stupidest name I've ever heard of." http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?62262-Fedora-17-Has-A-Tasty-Codename-Beefy-Miracle&highlight=beefy+miracle "Linux. Welcome to the land of ******* release names." "Haha, all possible Fedora names are *****. I approve. Go Spherical Cow!" "Fedora 18 Santorum edition" "Can I vote for "none of the above <puke />"?" https://plus.google.com/105047371315992982745/posts/SqD8N2x4bzT "Honestly, I think the name of Fedora 18 is a great **** and I propose to change it immediately to other more formal and attractive. Project leaders must change it without any democratic process. Spherical Cows, what the ****? I propose names inspired in people connected with art or mithology, I think Verne and Leonidas were great names, but Beefy Miracle is not serious and Spherical Cows are extremly ridiculous." "After the hotdog incident, I won't be suggesting or voting on any names." https://plus.google.com/112917221531140868607/posts/9kPPBD9hK5g "People talking about a codename? That's what Fedora really needs, huh? I heard that each codename has to be approved by RH's legal team. If this is true, it's a waste of money and time. Enough to stop caring about codenames altogether." https://plus.google.com/117529260069625349238/posts/Kc5MnMJoA9g "...Fedora 17's code name is seriously "Beefy Miracle"? Here I thought Ubuntu's codenames were pull-words-from-a-hat-tastic." https://plus.google.com/100290247863975930326/posts/Nv25LituxCF "This is fake, right? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/f18-name"; https://plus.google.com/107646837068615384568/posts/Hpjjq5KZbLV "Jesus ****. When will they start giving them normal names so that users from windows don't think we're entirely retarded and avoid linux like a ******* plague." http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?74283-Fedora-19-Might-Be-A-Prime-Rib-Or-Crop-Circle#post290119 >From Fedora Forums, our users: "I just hope it has nothing to do with cows, beef or miracles. Beefy Miracle was the stupidest name ever for a release, and I will certainly be glad when it hits EOL so I don't have to see it mentioned anymore." "If 'Elastic Horses' is chosen, then I will go back to windows" http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=284848 "The trend has been that fedora names get progressively worse. So I'm expecting something pretty awful." "Howz abouts we just call them F(xx) from now on. I'd opt for that! :dance: It holds a certain sense of professionalism within its clean and simple look all while displaying all the information one needs to know." "i hope they finish with Names after F18 cause there getting stupid with each release" "Embarrassing." "I used to like the idea of release names...... but after attempting to vote on Fedora 18, for the first time I will abstain. I can't believe that this load of drivel was all people could come up with. " "a spherical cow .....worst name ever." ""Cow" again ?!?! Wonder how this name is beneficial for the Artwork team to theme the release ?! :doh:" " I thought Beefy Miracle was the stupidest name possible, but They actually have topped it with the F18 name. :p" http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-277841.html " Looks like I will have to skip the F17 release to save the embarrassment when I tell my friends what OS I am running." http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-269640.html _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
