On Wednesday, January 12, 2011 08:08:55 pm MÃirÃn Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:54 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > > "compromise our brand"? I think I'd like a lot more evidence to support > > that claim than you've offered. > > > > 1. I do not believe our brand is known for polish > > > > 2. I do not believe that this will compromise anything. > > Paul just posted this review excerpt on a couple of lists today: > > "...[W]hat bowled me over first was not KDE -- it was the new Fedora > website. Never have I seen such an outstanding presentation of free > and open source software, or of an operating system, done so > meticulously. Even if FOSS is not your cup of tea, it may succeed in > wooing you." > > (from http://www.linuxforu.com/reviews/fedora-14%E2%80% > 94im-smiling-about-laughlin/ ) And he liked our Plasma offering too :) R. > We may not be known for polish but there are folks including myself who > have been working very hard to get us there release-by-release. The > website redesign over the past 3 release has been the first major phase; > the next phase is syslinux, installer, and firstboot polish. [1] > Distributing media far & wide with a sloppy & unpolished menu screen as > the very first thing you see when you try Fedora out would definitely be > a step back in the midst of those efforts as it's introducing a new > unpolished element at a time when we're actively trying to eradicate > them. > > > > The difference in opinions I think is because where some see a > > > functional product that solves a technical problem, I see an > > > embarrassingly, visibly flawed promotional item. Such distributed media > > > primarily are promotional items IMHO. E.g., people have come up to me > > > at show booths to tell me they 'collect' the media but don't actually > > > use it as they download Fedora to install from our website. > > > > "embarrassingly, visibly flawed" - I think that's a touch hyperbolic, > > don't you? > > I don't, otherwise I would not have written it. I did and still do > acknowledge we've got some very different perspectives. Is a more > aesthetic / polish-oriented perspective invalid, since it's the > minority? > > Put another way, if you paid for a professional designer to do this for > you and they provided you a mockup that appears exactly as the menu > appears today, would you feel you'd gotten good value for your money? > > (I'd fire them.) > > ~m > > [1] See "Background" and "Strategy for the Installation User Experience" > here > http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/fedora-installation-user-experience- > improvements-syslinux/ > > > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board -- Jaroslav ÅeznÃk <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board