On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 13:54 -0500, seth vidal wrote: > "compromise our brand"? I think I'd like a lot more evidence to support > that claim than you've offered. > > 1. I do not believe our brand is known for polish > > 2. I do not believe that this will compromise anything. Paul just posted this review excerpt on a couple of lists today: "...[W]hat bowled me over first was not KDE -- it was the new Fedora website. Never have I seen such an outstanding presentation of free and open source software, or of an operating system, done so meticulously. Even if FOSS is not your cup of tea, it may succeed in wooing you." (from http://www.linuxforu.com/reviews/fedora-14%E2%80% 94im-smiling-about-laughlin/ ) We may not be known for polish but there are folks including myself who have been working very hard to get us there release-by-release. The website redesign over the past 3 release has been the first major phase; the next phase is syslinux, installer, and firstboot polish. [1] Distributing media far & wide with a sloppy & unpolished menu screen as the very first thing you see when you try Fedora out would definitely be a step back in the midst of those efforts as it's introducing a new unpolished element at a time when we're actively trying to eradicate them. > > The difference in opinions I think is because where some see a > > functional product that solves a technical problem, I see an > > embarrassingly, visibly flawed promotional item. Such distributed media > > primarily are promotional items IMHO. E.g., people have come up to me at > > show booths to tell me they 'collect' the media but don't actually use > > it as they download Fedora to install from our website. > "embarrassingly, visibly flawed" - I think that's a touch hyperbolic, > don't you? I don't, otherwise I would not have written it. I did and still do acknowledge we've got some very different perspectives. Is a more aesthetic / polish-oriented perspective invalid, since it's the minority? Put another way, if you paid for a professional designer to do this for you and they provided you a mockup that appears exactly as the menu appears today, would you feel you'd gotten good value for your money? (I'd fire them.) ~m [1] See "Background" and "Strategy for the Installation User Experience" here http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/11/18/fedora-installation-user-experience-improvements-syslinux/ _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board