On Monday, December 20, 2010 09:49:29 pm Max Spevack wrote: > On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Max Spevack (mspevack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > >> == Giving things the most accurate names possible == > >> > >> Revisit the (IMHO wrong) decision to not call the "Fedora Desktop" the > >> "Fedora GNOME Desktop" and correct this naming for F15 and onward. Do > >> this in time for F15 Alpha. > >> > >> This is entirely separate from the decision of which spin is featured as > >> the default Fedora download, and I'm *not* trying to re-start that > >> conversation. > > > > This has already been discussed/voted on in the Board a couple of > > times. Are there any new arguments or data points here? (The board is > > certainly free to discuss/vote again, of course.) > > I think the new data point is *this current situation*. *IF* Fedora > wants to highlight is commitment to and close relationship to upstream > GNOME, especially around GNOME 3's release, then maybe it makes sense to > call out the GNOME-ishness of the Fedora Desktop by calling it the > Fedora GNOME Desktop. This highlights GNOME and builds awareness, and > it has a positive side effect of (IMHO) giving a more clear and > consistent naming process to our multiple offerings. Then let's call it GNU/Linux Fedora Gnome Desktop ;-) On the other hand - Fedora Shell for Desktops, Fedora Plasma for Desktops makes sense. R. > >> == Wallpaper == > >> > >> Decide a simple yes or no to the request to make F15's GNOME wallpaper > >> the same as upstream. If yes, make it clear that this is a ONE TIME > >> exception to our normal processes. > >> > >> Similarly, decide that all the other F15 spins will feature a custom > >> wallpaper as always, and that this will be the plan for *everything* > >> down the road. > > > > 'custom wallpaper' should probably be explicitly defined, as it can be > > read to mean different things (especially if there are desktops with > > *no* default artwork.) > > What I mean is "any deviation from the standard practices of the Fedora > Design Team related to GNOME and F15 is limited only to F15, and only to > F15's GNOME spin." > > >> == Marketing & PR opportunity == > >> > >> GNOME 3 and F15 is an opportunity to create some mutual wins. > > > > ... snip ... > > > >> NOTE THAT THE ABOVE DOES NOT PREVENT FEDORA FROM DOING VERY SIMILAR > >> THINGS WHEN NEW VERSIONS OF OTHER DESKTOPS ARE RELEASED. IT IS NOT A > >> ZERO SUM GAME. > > > > ... well, resources *are* sort of zero sum. Especially given the > > current state of spins (if someone shows up to maintain, help, etc. we > > ship them, if they don't, we don't), I don't think it makes sense to > > commit to this as something we'd do for arbitrary desktops. Now, if we > > change the policies around spins, it may make more sense. > > I completely agree that resources ARE a zero-sum game. > > What I meant by the statement above is that if you think about the > *opportunity* presented around F15 and GNOME 3, there is nothing > administrative or governance related that could prevent a future version > of Fedora from similarly highlighting a major new release of some other > high-profile piece of software. > > --Max > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board -- Jaroslav ÅeznÃk <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
