On Mon, 20 Dec 2010, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Max Spevack (mspevack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) said: >> == Giving things the most accurate names possible == >> >> Revisit the (IMHO wrong) decision to not call the "Fedora Desktop" the >> "Fedora GNOME Desktop" and correct this naming for F15 and onward. Do >> this in time for F15 Alpha. >> >> This is entirely separate from the decision of which spin is featured as >> the default Fedora download, and I'm *not* trying to re-start that >> conversation. > > This has already been discussed/voted on in the Board a couple of > times. Are there any new arguments or data points here? (The board is > certainly free to discuss/vote again, of course.) I think the new data point is *this current situation*. *IF* Fedora wants to highlight is commitment to and close relationship to upstream GNOME, especially around GNOME 3's release, then maybe it makes sense to call out the GNOME-ishness of the Fedora Desktop by calling it the Fedora GNOME Desktop. This highlights GNOME and builds awareness, and it has a positive side effect of (IMHO) giving a more clear and consistent naming process to our multiple offerings. >> == Wallpaper == >> >> Decide a simple yes or no to the request to make F15's GNOME wallpaper >> the same as upstream. If yes, make it clear that this is a ONE TIME >> exception to our normal processes. >> >> Similarly, decide that all the other F15 spins will feature a custom >> wallpaper as always, and that this will be the plan for *everything* >> down the road. > > 'custom wallpaper' should probably be explicitly defined, as it can be > read to mean different things (especially if there are desktops with > *no* default artwork.) What I mean is "any deviation from the standard practices of the Fedora Design Team related to GNOME and F15 is limited only to F15, and only to F15's GNOME spin." >> == Marketing & PR opportunity == >> >> GNOME 3 and F15 is an opportunity to create some mutual wins. > > ... snip ... > >> NOTE THAT THE ABOVE DOES NOT PREVENT FEDORA FROM DOING VERY SIMILAR >> THINGS WHEN NEW VERSIONS OF OTHER DESKTOPS ARE RELEASED. IT IS NOT A >> ZERO SUM GAME. > > ... well, resources *are* sort of zero sum. Especially given the > current state of spins (if someone shows up to maintain, help, etc. we > ship them, if they don't, we don't), I don't think it makes sense to > commit to this as something we'd do for arbitrary desktops. Now, if we > change the policies around spins, it may make more sense. I completely agree that resources ARE a zero-sum game. What I meant by the statement above is that if you think about the *opportunity* presented around F15 and GNOME 3, there is nothing administrative or governance related that could prevent a future version of Fedora from similarly highlighting a major new release of some other high-profile piece of software. --Max _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
