On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:01:35PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi (a.badger@xxxxxxxxx) said: > > > > Elected representatives have a duty to listen to people, even when they > > don't like what's being said. And they have a duty to tease out the facts > > from those messages. > > I understand what you're saying, but there are often times where there's > not a lot of facts in the messages, or what facts that there are are > obscured by requests that are completely infeasible. > For the updates proposal I tried to do something that I felt would be useful by summarizing and organizing the ideas presented in the threads so that things that were being repeated could be pointed out and information wouldn't be lost. It didn't work out too well for a few reasons: 1) People wanted to use the summaries as a way to create proposals instead of simply summarizing the conversation. I encouraged this at the time but I think it was a mistake -- we really just needed a forum to show that everyone's ideas had been heard. 2) I started too late in the game. I had already read a large amount of the thread before thinking of doing this. At that point, it was not only tedious because of repition by the email authors but also because of having already read the thread once. 3) I wanted to participate. I think that being good at summarizing a hot issue is best done by someone who can stay out of the discussion. Once you get involved you second guess whether you're skewing your version of the summary (no idea if I actually skewed it or was just afraid that I was going to). 4) Probably because there were proposals popping up, FESCo started the process of reviewing the proposals and bringing them to a vote. I saw the summaries as more a means for making sure that everyone's ideas had been presented in a reasonable, intelligent way but the time pressure of an actual proposal going before FESCo meant that people were very anxious to reiterate their strongest arguments and get their ideas down as a proposal before FESCo voted on something. It became like trying to summarize political ads the night before an election. I think there's potential in doing this so I might try it again sometime. Maybe the next time I hear about a thread-o-doom via IRC before I've actually read any of it, I'll give it another shot. -Toshio
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