To quote from inside of Red Hat.. is it Friday already and when did this become memo-list? :) 2010/7/23 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 10:53 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> 2010/7/23 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> > I'm clearly quite biased but I trust Red Hat a lot more than I trust >> > Google, as Google has done several things to me personally to completely >> > lose my trust while Red Hat goes out of its way to do things the right >> > way. >> >> I don't disagree with you. I'm biased too. But we can't build a policy >> that encodes..bias. We have to build a policy that puts vendors on an >> equal footing. > > Do we really? > > If I need a cake for a party, and my mom is a baker, is it really cool > to put her work on equal footing with other bakers in the area? When, > you know, I wouldn't be alive without her? And she'll bake my cake for > free? I have no idea how this analogy works with Fedora... especially since Fedora's mom doesn't bake our cake for free... and we aren't talking about Mom's cakes but the car mechanic that Mom uses also. The bigger issue is basic social psychology. You and I are paid by Red Hat day in and day out... and whether we like it or not our brain's pathways are different from those of people who are not paid. Our group dynamics and acceptance of things is completely different from 'outsiders'. Leave Red Hat, and your brain patterns will change again and you might come up with a different conclusion (depending on how you left, what your social arrangements with people inside of Red Hat are etc.) I have seen people take the stand you are taking right now and then go 180 degrees different after leaving Red Hat (and vice versa for people coming into RH). [THis behaviour is not just Red Hat but most companies.. psychologists have seen it even down to McDonalds.] In any case, people outside of the 'clique' sense it and are more wary of trusting people inside it or choices... thus the usual reason you see these sort of cross communities requiring higher standards from the sponsor than other organizations. -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board