On 7/23/2010 1:59 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 10:53 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> 2010/7/23 Máirín Duffy<duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >>> I'm clearly quite biased but I trust Red Hat a lot more than I trust >>> Google, as Google has done several things to me personally to completely >>> lose my trust while Red Hat goes out of its way to do things the right >>> way. >>> >> I don't disagree with you. I'm biased too. But we can't build a policy >> that encodes..bias. We have to build a policy that puts vendors on an >> equal footing. >> > Do we really? > > If I need a cake for a party, and my mom is a baker, is it really cool > to put her work on equal footing with other bakers in the area? When, > you know, I wouldn't be alive without her? And she'll bake my cake for > free? > > I think impartiality here is a myth. Red Hat is part of Fedora's family. > I feel that if you try to encode equality between Red Hat and some > random vendor into policy, you're going to fail so why bother? > > By the same token, when you're looking for a >> We can still have meta arguments and make judgement >> calls about choosing particular vendors based on track record. I >> certainly don't intend to take intrastructure's or the board's power >> to say we trust vendor X over vendor Y because a track record of >> performance or unquantifiable on a case by case basis. >> >> But in the scope of this discussion about crafting policy we need to >> treat all vendors..neutrally to be credible. Red Hat can't be thought >> of as exceptional in the lens of policy on external service providers. >> > Why not? > > I think any service provider that is part of Fedora's family and > supports Fedora should be considered over other vendors. E.g., we have > various hosting sponsors for our website that we have rotating banner > ads for. Certainly I'd like to see us supporting those businesses over > say Google. > > What other organizations would fall into this category? While I don't necessarily disagree, I'm curious if any share the same level of public mental association with Fedora that RH has. >> If anything we have to continually hold Red Hat to a more exacting >> standard as a hedge against bias with the knowledge and the trust that >> Red Hat is committed to meeting the standard of performance this >> project puts forward. >> > Why? > > ~m > > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board > _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board