On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM, seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have to ask this: Do you honestly believe that the poisonous people we > have in our community don't understand that what they are doing is > harmful? Are we to believe that they've never been in common human > society before, that fedora was their first introduction to > working/interacting with others? > > I'm sorry, I don't think that's the case, they are not 'babes in the > woods'. They are toxic and a CoC is not gonna cut it, IMO. > > -sv In short I'd say yes. I think that there are, in addition to $just_bad that there are two other classes of people that a code of conduct would be beneficial for: 1. people who believe themselves to be trying to 'preserve' $foo about the Fedora, and feel a need to protect the project from itself at any means. Admittedly, I don't think that this will help the current batch - as they would likely see this as lacking legitimacy, but in a year or so perhaps it would. 2. people, particularly those people who are relatively new, who come into the community with a different set of expectations around what's acceptable, because they came from wherever and bad behavior was acceptable there. I don't think it's a panacea. I do think, however, that our method of passing the culture and expectations around isn't scalable as we continue to grow, and we honestly probably passed the point it was a good while back. David _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board