On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:25:25PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:17:45AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> I bring it up because I still honestly don't know your stance on this and > >> being the project lead it's pretty important to this discussion. Are we > >> excluding people or are we including everyone? > > > >I'm sorry I haven't been clear enough, in that case. "Everyone" is > >too broad and there's no way we can make release, QA, or any other > >criteria around that definition. Any detail, no matter how small, is > >going to be important to somebody and for that person, might be a > >blocker on a release. With that target we would have a hard time ever > >releasing something. So: > > > >We should target computer-literate users who are making a conscious > >choice to switch to Linux, are willing to help a developer debug a > >problem if one occurs, and use their system to connect to the Internet > >and run a general set of productivity and communication tools (connect > >to network, update system if needed, browse Web, use our help venues > >including mail and IRC). These users need not be developers, > >programmers, sysadmins, or tinkerers. By targeting this type of user, > >and by fixing things we're not doing right for this type of user, > >we'll also fix a lot of other people's pain, including people in our > >core contributor audience. > > > >I would like to have a much longer and more detailed set of criteria > >for what this person needs to be able to do from the moment they boot > >the installation media, but that's a next step. Mairin Duffy sort of > >started down this road and I think there's a lot we can add to her > >description of what the user should expect to be able to do. > > > >If it helps you gain clarity at all, I think Bill Nottingham and I are > >in pretty good agreement. If the above isn't clear to you please let > >me know how and I'll be happy to be more descriptive. > > Considering this pretty much matches the description of the target user > I sent out as my reply to the orginal email that started this thread, I > think you could count me as in agreement as well. Fantastic. The Board came together around this as well in today's meeting. I will get those notes published, and a summary to the FAB list, by tonight. I'm running a little behind with the Fedora Activity Day I'm hosting starting tomorrow, picking up travelers today, etc. But I'll get it here on the list as soon as humanly possible. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
