On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:17:45AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: >> I bring it up because I still honestly don't know your stance on this and >> being the project lead it's pretty important to this discussion. Are we >> excluding people or are we including everyone? > >I'm sorry I haven't been clear enough, in that case. "Everyone" is >too broad and there's no way we can make release, QA, or any other >criteria around that definition. Any detail, no matter how small, is >going to be important to somebody and for that person, might be a >blocker on a release. With that target we would have a hard time ever >releasing something. So: > >We should target computer-literate users who are making a conscious >choice to switch to Linux, are willing to help a developer debug a >problem if one occurs, and use their system to connect to the Internet >and run a general set of productivity and communication tools (connect >to network, update system if needed, browse Web, use our help venues >including mail and IRC). These users need not be developers, >programmers, sysadmins, or tinkerers. By targeting this type of user, >and by fixing things we're not doing right for this type of user, >we'll also fix a lot of other people's pain, including people in our >core contributor audience. > >I would like to have a much longer and more detailed set of criteria >for what this person needs to be able to do from the moment they boot >the installation media, but that's a next step. Mairin Duffy sort of >started down this road and I think there's a lot we can add to her >description of what the user should expect to be able to do. > >If it helps you gain clarity at all, I think Bill Nottingham and I are >in pretty good agreement. If the above isn't clear to you please let >me know how and I'll be happy to be more descriptive. Considering this pretty much matches the description of the target user I sent out as my reply to the orginal email that started this thread, I think you could count me as in agreement as well. josh _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board