On 10/22/2009 09:37 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: > I'm just going to bring up the elephant in the room, at least the one I > see. Up until this discussion I was under the impression that Ubuntu and > us were not in direct competition. They were catering to noobs and > general users, we were catering to enthusiasts and experienced users. > Coming out of this conversation (not just with Paul but with everyone) it > seems clear that Ubuntu's goals and our goals greatly overlap if not > completely overlap. I don't think our goals do overlap though. To us, following an excellent, open process of producing software is just as important as producing excellent, open source software. One of our goals is to be a model and an example of that process, and to prove it works so it may be taken up by other domains. I don't think they care about that at all. To us, the means are not justified by the ends - they are just as important. I think to Ubuntu, the ends justify the means. > The problem? They are KILLING us. I'm not talking about market share, > I'm talking about my recent converts from Fedora to Ubuntu. I haven't had > to do a single thing to my wifes computer since I put Ubuntu on there > except setup my printer. With Fedora I was on it almost daily. Did yum updates cause the breakage? ~m _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board