Re: "What is the Fedora Project?"

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Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx) said: 
> > I'd agree here. I think I'm like many people here - I don't necessarily
> > have the ability to make good design, but I can recognize bad ones. A
> > non-trivial amount of software (that we ship, even!) falls into the bad
> > category, and it's because there wasn't much thought given to the design
> > when it was created (whether it's user interface, admin interface, or
> > even API design.) 
> 
> Doesn't this kind of thing only work where we're the upstream, or we
> have direct heavy influence on the upstream?  How useful is pointing out
> terrible UI on software where we're just the packager, and upstream
> doesn't agree with us?  We're no longer a community of producers, a
> large part of our contributors are just consuming upstream and putting
> it in Fedora.

We make the decisions about what the defaults are, and what software is
or isn't included in in a particular spin, or promoted in the docs, etc.
It's not much of a carrot, but it can be used tha tway.

Bill

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