Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > I'd agree here. I think I'm like many people here - I don't necessarily > > have the ability to make good design, but I can recognize bad ones. A > > non-trivial amount of software (that we ship, even!) falls into the bad > > category, and it's because there wasn't much thought given to the design > > when it was created (whether it's user interface, admin interface, or > > even API design.) > > Doesn't this kind of thing only work where we're the upstream, or we > have direct heavy influence on the upstream? How useful is pointing out > terrible UI on software where we're just the packager, and upstream > doesn't agree with us? We're no longer a community of producers, a > large part of our contributors are just consuming upstream and putting > it in Fedora. We make the decisions about what the defaults are, and what software is or isn't included in in a particular spin, or promoted in the docs, etc. It's not much of a carrot, but it can be used tha tway. Bill _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board