On 10/08/2009 01:36 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > So, given the opportunity to talk to them directly, what would you > possibly say that would change their mind? Quoting myself: I think the thing that leaves me unsettled is that all of this seems to stem from the fact that some new users are not having a great experience with Fedora, and rather than analyze that problem and work on usability improvements, we are choosing to let those users go somewhere else, whether that is Mac OSX or Ubuntu or Windows. I think that such a decision is terribly short-sighted, and will result in a long-term loss of contributors, community, and possibly the eventual irrelevance of Fedora. ***** To answer your specific question Mike, I wouldn't try to change their mind. What I would do is try to figure out what they liked about Windows and what they didn't like about Fedora. And if it turns out that there isn't a Fedora Spin currently available that is a good fit for them, then I'd either work towards making one that was, or wait and see if the community came up with a Spin that was a good fit for them. Being blunt: It doesn't bother me that my wife uses Windows. It would bother me a lot if the Board decides that Fedora will never be for her. It wouldn't bother me at all if the Desktop SIG decides that their Fedora spin isn't for her, because I could always start a "Fedora Simple" SIG that worked towards a Fedora Spin that would be a good fit for her. ~spot _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board