On 10/08/2009 01:05 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > >> On 10/07/2009 12:11 AM, John Poelstra wrote: >>> >>> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-board-meeting/2009-10-01/fedora-board-meeting.2009-10-01-16.03.log.html >>> >>> >>> At last week's meeting we said we would continue our discussion here. >>> Here I go :) >>> >>> 1) I'm still advocating that it is our responsibility to move things >>> forward and own these issues. Are there any board members that >>> disagree? Speak now or we will assume you are in agreement. :-) >> >> I've been thinking a lot about how I want to respond to this thread. >> Here are my thoughts: >> >> * I am troubled by the subtext of the repeated questioning of "What is >> Fedora", because I really don't think that is the question that is being >> asked. Instead, I think the question being asked (or at least, the >> question being answered) is: "Who is Fedora (the Linux Distribution) for?" >> >> If indeed, we are attempting to answer that question, it implies that >> there are users for whom Fedora is not, and will never be, a good fit. > > My wife and both of my parents answered no to every single question on > this page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Is_Fedora_For_Me Heh. I knew you would choose to respond solely to that item, Mike. For what it is worth, I disagree with the spirit and wording of that wiki page. In my mind, it is roughly analogous to this: http://ford.com/not_real/Are_Ford_Cars_For_Me Background =========== Ford cars are not for everyone, although Ford works hard to make our cars as usable as possible for the widest possible audience. Finding Out ============ To find out whether Ford cars are suitable for you, ask yourself the following: * Are you a NASCAR driver? * Do you want a car that features brand new technologies that will show up in future cars? * Are you okay with having to change your car's oil every 3,000 miles? * Do you care about the Automotive Unions? * Would you like to become a car mechanic? If the answer to any or all of these questions is "yes", you should consider a Ford car! ***** This line of reasoning isn't remotely inclusionary, in fact, it is almost poisonous. The wording about the "widest possible audience" is a lie, because we promptly follow it up with wording to exclude new users. Now, balance that with what I said about the validity of each Fedora spin having a target audience. I think it might be fine (albeit, disappointing) for someone to discover that there is no Fedora spin which is a good fit for them, but for us to say that we will never give a damn about them across all possible distribution spins... well, I don't think I can back that in good conscience. ~spot _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board