On 07/16/2009 04:33 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 04:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> This can be tricky to actually convey. Let's say, I do a rawhide >> snapshot of the Fedora Live CD for QA. Someone else takes my snapshot >> and redistributes it to some other users who aren't aware that it isn't >> a finished product. > > I don't think you can prevent what others do with your offering. In that case, the purpose of why it was offered in the first place cannot be used as a meaningful differentiator on granting branding rights since the purpose will be lost between intermediates engaging in redistribution. We > haven't worried about this in the past, why are we worrying about it > now? Are we purposefully trying to find all the hard to answer > questions? These are hard questions, yes but it is necessary to answer them. Few reasons why. I have noticed a number of use cases that don't seem to be covered well within the current guidelines and none of these have been rebranded and hence strictly speaking trademark violations and I want the guidelines to cover them: * QA team has started test days actively with associated rawhide snapshots * Adam Jackson IIRC posted a rawhide snapshot of the Fedora desktop live cd * Adam Miller recently posted a rawhide snapshot of the Xfce Live CD https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-July/msg00251.html * Others are interested in or already posting daily snapshots. I am interested in knowing for example, whether I can take the Xfce ks in spin-kickstarts, include the updates repo, create a new live cd and still call it Fedora Xfce Spin. Kevin Fenzi is ok with that but I would want to hear other opinions and incorporate consensus into the trademark guidelines to cover all of these explicitly and unambiguously in a way that makes all this possible while avoiding brand dilution. The solution might just be to advocate rebranding in these cases. I am interesting in hearing everyone's thoughts on this. Rahul _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board