On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jeff Spaleta <jspaleta@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:29 AM, inode0 <inode0@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> We can't hold your feet to the fire if you won't tell us what you do. :) > > Actually you can and as a community you must! > > If there are issues that you feel are not being addressed by any > existing group... you bring them to the board.. and we figure out how > to address the issue. We might task you with creating a policy draft, > we might take the issue to an existing group and bully them into > dealing with it.. or we might stand up a whole new community group to > find consensus and do the necessary work. But we do all of that at > the urging of community members. If people are not bringing issues > forward.. then we have to assume things are working smoothly and there > is absolutely no reason for us to meddle. We keep going from the specific to the general. I have been discussing one specific issue, fedora board elections. I have asked specific questions about how the Fedora community is expected to arrive at a vote within the current system. I am not getting any suggestions that I don't perceive to be the equivalent of tossing darts at the phonebook. > ... snip ... > If community members are not bringing issues forward, then the > community is not doing its part. The Board is a construct meant to be > responsive to project needs. if those needs are not brought forward, > then basically the best candidate ends up being people with certified > mind-reading abilities. Sitting on your hands, expecting candidates > to know what you are looking for is quite frankly pathetic. Challenge > them, challenge the sitting board, by putting issues forward and > explaining your frustrations in a timely manner. Ask the candidates > pointedly what they think about those issues. Don't evaluate what > issues candidates think are important...evaluate what a candidate > thinks about the issues which are important to you as the community. > Bring those issues to the table, and demand the Board and the Board > candidates talk about them. So you expect each voter to have a lengthy chat with 5, 10, 20 candidates in a 10 day voting period. How do you see that working? I am hearing a nice explanation of the general parameters governing what the board does and how the Fedora community can interact with the board. That is all great information. I don't see how that is relevant in the limited context of board elections. John _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
