On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 21:52 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 13:52 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:21 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > > On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 08:40 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> > What purpose would getting the answers to those questions serve? > >> > >> > >> > >> If we are unhappy with the total voter turnout and want to do > >> > >> something about it for the next election... then making an effort to > >> > >> identify if there is an imbalance in the voting would be worthwhile. > >> > >> Did our European contributors vote in proportion to their cla numbers > >> > >> compared to the North American contributors? If not.. then we know to > >> > >> lean on Max and try to get those numbers up for the next election. He > >> > >> should be fluent in European by now, so he shouldn't need any help > >> > >> traveling the countryside gathering voters in his wake. > >> > > > >> > > That answers the geographic question you had. Sounds like a very sane > >> > > reason and I'm also curious as to what the results of that would be. > >> > > > >> > > Why do you want to know about the percentage of Red Hat voters vs. > >> > > community? > >> > > > >> > > >> > If the majority of people who voted are inside of RH and not out... > >> > then you have a potential bias you need to focus on the next election. > >> > Why didn't people outside of RH vote? > > My personal view: People feel the board is a RH internal business, which > > has never represented the "people" and has never dealt with issues > > directly affecting people. > > > > I don't agree, but I have no idea what people you are talking about... > the proletariat people or the people working on Fedora? The latter, because that's the people which were supposed to vote. But ask yourselves: * What does the board do which directly impacts "joe average Fedora contributor"? IMO, almost nothing - It's FESCO, which does. * How has the board been composed so far? An overwhelming RH majority. * How do you expect the board be composed in future? %50 RH assigned seats, the rest is being elected by a RH dominated group of voters. So, everything but seeing a ca. 2/3-3/4 RH-dominated board would be a surprise. The next board will have a 90-100% RH-dominated board, well, the overall situation hasn't changed at all. This board is designed to be a RH internal business. > >> > Is the process working? > > IMO: no. > > > > In addition to what I wrote above, I found the election has been poorly > > communicated/promoted - Even I almost missed it. > > > > And when voting, I had difficulties in finding candidates I would want > > to vote for ... > > > > Ok I don't see how you could have missed it. Ohh, it had been quite easy ... it got lost in the lists' traffic. > It got sent out in > multiple mailing lists, lots of people blogged about it.. but I guess > I was more aware since I wasn't going to try and run this time because > I don't want to be overbooked. I was aware about "the vote is going to happen some time soon", but I almost missed the final "opening". I only noticed it when cleaning up my FAB-list folder before going on vacation for a week and voted "last minute" before leaving. > Now for finding candidates.. you can always run yourself or find > someone you want to run and get them nominated (eg get them to want to > run). One can't do everything oneself. That's one of fundamental working principles of democracy. I simply could not find "the candidate" I would like to vote for and therefore resorted to "voting for the least evil". If I wasn't a deeply convinced democrat, who takes participating in votes for governments for granted, I probably would have abstained the vote. Ralf _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
