On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 01:24:49PM -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 1:14 PM, John Poelstra <poelstra@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Unlike others that have posted here, I am less optimistic that we can > > viably review and address all 13,000+ open bugs. We need to do > > something drastic to clear the deck and start a process that insures > > that we don't end up in this hole again. I think this huge backlog is > > one of the biggest psychological de-motivators we have! > > I think you are right about clearing the deck as part of a re-launch > for a triaging inititive. > > I also think that now that we have bodhi and the bugs interfaces to > compliment what we have in bugzilla we have more to work with in terms > of workflow flexibility for different groups of people > (users,developers,triagers). > > Is there a way to possibly group bugs by SIG? So we can have specific > triagers associated with SIGs. triagers as a group are a team, but > then they also act as a liaison to each SIG which controls the > packaging and development of related of packages. That way SIGs might > advertise their triager role to new contributors as a starting point, > but make a commitment to mentoring those people so that in 6 months > those people move on to handling more advanced roles in the SIG such > as package maintainer, and new triagers are found for the entry level > position. For those who haven't realized it yet: Fedora development does not scale. This won't change until we move away from our 1-to-1/1-to-many package maintainership model. IMO, we need groups of people maintaining groups of packages. SIGs are a nice idea in theory, but have yet to be fully wielded. A great example of this concept in action can be found within the gentoo community[0] AFAIK, we have a few groups of maintainers that handle bugs, ie: {anaconda,kernel,gecko}-maint, but I'm unaware of any policy/procedures behind them. Having these groups per-SIG would definitely help get more eyes on our bugs, especially if we can allow for these sub-communities to thrive. It also sounds like Will's QA Beats[1] have the same general idea behind it. Instead of encapsulating people at the bugzilla/QA level, why not form these groups at the distro-level, to allow for team-based: packaging, bug triaging, QA, docs, etc.. ? Thoughts? luke [0]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/herds/ [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Beats
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