On 12.06.2007 18:10, Rex Dieter wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> * bodhi, koji are immature, semi-functional, semi-cooked pieces of SW >> which still have to prove their longevity, but so far don't do anything >> but introducing bureaucracy and are almost strangling former FE. > > But "good enough" to get the job done *now*. > Could you provide constructive suggestions(1) on how to make things better? Better documentation. A step by step guide: "how to update a Fedora package for dummies after the merge" or "The way of a package update: from cvs commit over koji and bodi into the proper repo". Linked on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers please. Lack of proper documentation (¹) is the root problem of those techniques afaics and is responsible for most of the confusion and frustration about the merge. Example: today a long term contributor that started in the the fedora.us days and did some important stuff for Fedora in the past years send me a mail with round about this text "HELP! I need to get a package updated in Fedora 7 and I don't know how to do that". That IMHO shows that something seriously is wrong (²). CU thl (¹) -- some tools like koji even have documentation, but how to use them is not written down properly (²) -- go to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers yourself; do you find a document on that page that describes how to update a package for Fedora 7? _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board