Re: python 2 retirement commo efforts

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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Miro Hrončok wrote:

> > The ** POINT ** of producing such a report is to  'put
> > numbers' on the scope of the work rather than loose armwaving
> > assertions such as:
> > 
> > > Fedora still has more than 3000 packages depending on
> > > python2 – many more than we can support without upstream
> > > help.
> 
> Those are real Fedora numbers [0]. No armwaving involved.
> 
> 1311 python2 only packages
> 1734 python2+python3 packages
> + 88 with packaging problem where I'm not sure
> 
> That is something between 3045 and 3133. That can be rounded to 3k.
> 
> No idea why we moved the discussion to another list as well, but stop accusing
> us from armwaving. We have data (for Fedora, because that where we started the
> discussion). As for RHEL/EPEL: current ones can remain as they are. Future
> ones see [1].

"accusing" ?  I think it is pretty clear that more than a 
little projection is going on here.  I offered a description 
of methodology, hard numbers on six archives, and the 
generation script to nail down numbers.  Before your most 
recent email, .... nope

The _reason_ that it was off an EPEL thread (EPEL of course 
being PART OF FEDORAPROJECT, last time I looked) is that is 
the harder one to solve, and also there was a thread going as 
to planning a meeting, of which that hard data was a part


If I go to a car dealer and seek to buy a car and ask a price, 
and am told by the salesperson:

	"more than 3000" dollars

they have not yet not told me a price they will sell the car 
at

-- Russ herrold
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