[Anaconda-devel] Re: partitioning, Everything ISO

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 6:47 AM Vendula Poncova <vponcova@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:34 AM Jiri Konecny <jkonecny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Dne 24. 01. 22 v 20:20 Neal Gompa napsal(a):
>> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:46 PM Peter Boy <pboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> >>> Am 24.01.2022 um 18:42 schrieb Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
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>> >>> cc: anaconda-devel@
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>> >>>  From today's Fedora QA minutes
>> >>> https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-01-24/fedora-qa.2022-01-24-16.00.log.html
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>> >>> 16:20:54 <pboy> I'll test that again, but I'm sure, if you use
>> >>> everything DVD you get the wrong preconfiguration. We had a thread
>> >>> about that on server list.
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>> >>> I'm not finding this thread. But Adamw surely knows the history of
>> >>> Everything ISO better than I do. My fuzzy memory is that it's sort of
>> >>> a side effect of how images are made and it's kept around as a catch
>> >>> all. It's the only way to do a netinstall for any of the desktops. The
>> >>> default package set is for a minimal install, a.k.a. Fedora Custom.
>> >>> The idea is to make it straightforward to get a minimum bootable
>> >>> system and then use dnf to build it up from there.
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>> >>> Just for context, "Everything ISO" e.g.
>> >>> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/Fedora-Rawhide-20220124.n.0/compose/Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-Rawhide-20220124.n.0.iso
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>> >>> This image defines "automatic" partitioning as btrfs. It's intrinsic
>> >>> to the image itself what the partitioning defaults to. It's not a
>> >>> function of the package set, i.e. choosing the Server package set
>> >>> doesn't get you Server's default partitioning. It's a little
>> >>> confusing, but it's working as designed, insofar as it has one.
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>> >>> I cc'd Anaconda folks, because I'm not sure exactly where the
>> >>> "autopart" kickstart command gets defined these days. And also whether
>> >>> it's worth the effort to make autopart variable based on what edition
>> >>> or spin is selected in the Everything netinstaller? I'm not sure that
>> >>> it is.
>> >> Chris,
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>> >> if I remember correctly, wasn’t it you who informed me (about a year ago in the context of F32/33) that booting from everything DVD and select „Fedora Server“ does not result in an identical installation as booting from Server DVD and selecting „Fedora Server“? (when I wondered about the installation on a rented remote hardware where only „Everything“ was available).
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>> > That's a different case. That's referring to the package collection.
>> > The Everything ISO has the base Fedora "profile" that most variants
>> > use (which uses Btrfs). But it also doesn't select Fedora Server by
>> > default and is explicitly designed "for experts", The Fedora Server
>> > netinstall ISO uses the Fedora Server "profile" and will use the
>> > Fedora Server settings by default, including using LVM+XFS.
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>> > Think of the Everything ISO as something that an Arch convert would
>> > use, while the Fedora Server netinstall ISO would be something that a
>> > sysadmin doing server deployments from a central repo mirror would
>> > use.
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>> Hi,
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>> Yes, it's as Neal said. Basically Anaconda is now using configuration
>> profiles which are matching the /etc/os-release values.
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>> https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/blob/master/data/profile.d/fedora-server.conf#L9
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>> If there is a match we will choose that configuration file. Not sure
>> what the Everything ISO has there. However, it's possible that it is
>> matching the base Fedora configuration file:
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>> https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/blob/master/data/profile.d/fedora.conf
>> where you can find the default_scheme:
>> https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/blob/master/data/profile.d/fedora.conf#L18
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> Btw. the issue with changing profiles based on the packages selection was already discussed here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2002668
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> I still think that the best approach would be to extend the boot menu of the Everything ISO as mentioned at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2002668#c1
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> The Anaconda profiles are documented here: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/configuration-files.html#profile-configuration-files
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Would it be possible to add the ability to define partitioning schemes
per scheme? For example, with Btrfs on Fedora Server, having a
subvolume for /home is sensible, but with the other arrangements that
divide up space, probably not. For RPM-OSTree systems
(Kinoite/Silverblue), we'd like to have a /var subvolume in addition
to /home, but not when plain partitions or LVM is used.



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