On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: > hello, > > most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound architectures that build on top of that, and software. > i think you might want to do some reading, e.g. here: > http://tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained > maybe you'll notice that the writer of this article is critical, like you, but not complaining. > i really don't understand the complaining tone you are using; > there's nothing wrong with opening a config file and editing a few settings. > btw, if you have 2 soundcards you can also set the default permanently, so it becomes hw:0,0 again. Nope. There is something wrong if your system doesn't work out of the box because something is broken by someone in some place. > > i feel like reacting to your last sentence but i won't. > but maybe you'd like to read this: > http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm You don't need to tell me that Linux != Windows. Personally, I don't dream about Linux being another Windows in terms of popularity but your attitude shown above makes it worse for all of us. > i think alsa does things well and works nicely on my machine. > but it's a book with 7 seals to me, and i heard people say it's notoriously underdocumented. > which is probably the reason why it's so hard to find solutions to problems. > > also, being lightweight _always_ means more configuration has to be made by hand. or none. > > so much from me. > > d. > > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:14:38 +0100 > wempwer@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn > > ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on > > Linux, is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Here are the examples - > > don't get me wrong, fix me if I got things wrong: > > > > 1) my work computer with Ubuntu has HDA Intel PCH soundcard > > installed. Moving PCM slider in alsamixer or muting it has no > > effect. This happens both when pulseaudio server is stopped and > > running. Moreover, manipulating volume slider inside pavucontrol > > results in higher volume than when Master and Speakers are set to > > maximum in alsamixer alone. That means, if I set a maximum volume > > inside pavucontrol I can hear sound louder because even if volume is > > set to maximum in alsamixer it is only about 50% in pavucontrol. > > > > 2) my home laptop HP Pavilion DV6 3015ew with Slackware has HDA ATI SB > > soundcard installed. Here, moving PCM slider in alsamixer changes > > volume correctly but PCM cannot be muted. Nothing happens in alsamixer > > when I press `m', and amixer says: > > > > $ amixer set PCM mute > > amixer: Invalid command! > > > > pulseaudio is not running here. Why is PCM observed behavior not > > coherent between 1) and 2) ? > > > > 3) my Toshiba n550d netbook has 2 soundcards - alsamixer shows > > "HD-Audio Generic" and "HDA ATI SB". What is bad is that the first > > card is set as default but it has no controls in alsamixer apart from > > "S/PDIF". Why this has happened? It brings some problems in programs > > that pick the first available card and treat it as default. For > > example, mocp says: > > > > Running the server... > > Trying OSS... > > > > FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver > > > > FATAL_ERROR: Server exited > > > > I needed to the following to $HOME/.moc/config: > > > > AlsaDevice = hw:1,0 > > > > 4) What's the relationship between Alsa, PulseAudio and OSS? On my HP > > Pavilion laptop I installed Linphone, a cool SIP client but I wasn't > > able to use it with my in-built mic until I set capture device to > > "OSS: /dev/dsp" in Linphone. I was looking for some general > > information on how to configure a microphone and I found this: > > http://alsa.opensrc.org/Record_from_mic. However, this guide contains > > expressions such as "I am not sure about that" or "Other things to > > try: " and a list of random thoughts follows. And about PulseAudio, I > > remember back in days that killing PulseAudio was the very first thing > > to do after starting the system to able to hear any sound at all. > > > > 5) My parents have Acer Aspire d255. It has some problems with > > in-built microphone - it doesn't work. This bug describes it: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/940841. Does anybody > > know if this problem is solved now in new kernel, new ALSA or is it > > solved at all? My parents are computer illiterate, they used to have > > Windows 7 Starter on this machine but it took it like 15 minutes to > > start so I removed it and installed Ubuntu for them. Now I have to > > explain to them why the microphone doesn't work out of the box. > > > > 6) A few months ago I got myself Creative bluetooth speakers. I have > > the following in my ~/.asoundrc.conf: > > > > Quote: > > pcm.bluetooth { > > type bluetooth > > device 00:02:3C:20:1D:5E > > } > > > > pcm.!default { > > type plug > > slave.pcm "bluetooth" > > } > > > > Some programs such as xmms2 can pick these settings correctly and play > > music on speakers, but some others such as mplayer can't do that and I > > always have to pass "-ao alsa:device=bluetooth" what's really annoying > > (I could create an alias for that but it's just a workaround and not a > > real solution). What's even more, I can't play sound in 2 programs > > simultaneously - only one program at a time can play sound. If I open > > a flash video in Firefox, I need to close it before I can play a song > > in xmms2. xmms2 for example is saying: > > > > Please check that: > > > > Your sound card is configured properly > > You have the correct output plugin selected > > No other program is blocking the sound card > > > > That's all. 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