Re: I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

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hello,

most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound architectures that build on top of that, and software.
i think you might want to do some reading, e.g. here:
http://tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained
maybe you'll notice that the writer of this article is critical, like you, but not complaining.
i really don't understand the complaining tone you are using;
there's nothing wrong with opening a config file and editing a few settings.
btw, if you have 2 soundcards you can also set the default permanently, so it becomes hw:0,0 again.

i feel like reacting to your last sentence but i won't.
but maybe you'd like to read this:
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

i think alsa does things well and works nicely on my machine.
but it's a book with 7 seals to me, and i heard people say it's notoriously underdocumented.
which is probably the reason why it's so hard to find solutions to problems.

also, being lightweight _always_ means more configuration has to be made by hand. or none.

so much from me.

d.


On Sun, 1 Dec 2013 19:14:38 +0100
wempwer@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn
> ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on
> Linux, is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Here are the examples -
> don't get me wrong, fix me if I got things wrong:
> 
> 1) my work computer with Ubuntu has HDA Intel PCH soundcard
> installed. Moving PCM slider in alsamixer or muting it has no
> effect. This happens both when pulseaudio server is stopped and
> running. Moreover, manipulating volume slider inside pavucontrol
> results in higher volume than when Master and Speakers are set to
> maximum in alsamixer alone. That means, if I set a maximum volume
> inside pavucontrol I can hear sound louder because even if volume is
> set to maximum in alsamixer it is only about 50% in pavucontrol.
> 
> 2) my home laptop HP Pavilion DV6 3015ew with Slackware has HDA ATI SB
> soundcard installed. Here, moving PCM slider in alsamixer changes
> volume correctly but PCM cannot be muted. Nothing happens in alsamixer
> when I press `m', and amixer says:
> 
> $ amixer set PCM mute
> amixer: Invalid command!
> 
> pulseaudio is not running here. Why is PCM observed behavior not
> coherent between 1) and 2) ?
> 
> 3) my Toshiba n550d netbook has 2 soundcards - alsamixer shows
> "HD-Audio Generic" and "HDA ATI SB". What is bad is that the first
> card is set as default but it has no controls in alsamixer apart from
> "S/PDIF". Why this has happened? It brings some problems in programs
> that pick the first available card and treat it as default. For
> example, mocp says:
> 
> Running the server...
> Trying OSS...
> 
> FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver
> 
> FATAL_ERROR: Server exited
> 
> I needed to the following to $HOME/.moc/config:
> 
> AlsaDevice = hw:1,0
> 
> 4) What's the relationship between Alsa, PulseAudio and OSS? On my HP
> Pavilion laptop I installed Linphone, a cool SIP client but I wasn't
> able to use it with my in-built mic until I set capture device to
> "OSS: /dev/dsp" in Linphone. I was looking for some general
> information on how to configure a microphone and I found this:
> http://alsa.opensrc.org/Record_from_mic. However, this guide contains
> expressions such as "I am not sure about that" or "Other things to
> try: " and a list of random thoughts follows. And about PulseAudio, I
> remember back in days that killing PulseAudio was the very first thing
> to do after starting the system to able to hear any sound at all.
> 
> 5) My parents have Acer Aspire d255. It has some problems with
> in-built microphone - it doesn't work. This bug describes it:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...er/+bug/940841. Does anybody
> know if this problem is solved now in new kernel, new ALSA or is it
> solved at all? My parents are computer illiterate, they used to have
> Windows 7 Starter on this machine but it took it like 15 minutes to
> start so I removed it and installed Ubuntu for them. Now I have to
> explain to them why the microphone doesn't work out of the box.
> 
> 6) A few months ago I got myself Creative bluetooth speakers. I have
> the following in my ~/.asoundrc.conf:
> 
> Quote:
> pcm.bluetooth {
> type bluetooth
> device 00:02:3C:20:1D:5E
> }
> 
> pcm.!default {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "bluetooth"
> }
> 
> Some programs such as xmms2 can pick these settings correctly and play
> music on speakers, but some others such as mplayer can't do that and I
> always have to pass "-ao alsa:device=bluetooth" what's really annoying
> (I could create an alias for that but it's just a workaround and not a
> real solution). What's even more, I can't play sound in 2 programs
> simultaneously - only one program at a time can play sound. If I open
> a flash video in Firefox, I need to close it before I can play a song
> in xmms2. xmms2 for example is saying:
> 
> Please check that:
> 
> Your sound card is configured properly
> You have the correct output plugin selected
> No other program is blocking the sound card
> 
> That's all. I am quite worried about all of these. It makes me thing
> that Linux is still not ready for wider adoption amongst casual users.
> 




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