Re: very interesting spdif problem

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Thanks for checking, Floris.

Do you think I should submit this problem as a bug report?

> I don't get my soundcard to stop working again to do a
> good test, but nevertheless here is my working asound.state.

Did you try putting the bad value in your asound.state to see if you
get the same behavior that I do?

> Sets the device name. Replace any ',' with '.' and any ':' with '=' in the
> ALSA device name. For hwac3 output via S/PDIF, use an "iec958" or "spdif"

This is confusing to me, since even though this output option works in
mplayer, according to the output of "aplay -l" and "aplay -L" I don't
appear to have a alsa iec958 or spidif device (see my first email).
Is there somewhere else I should look at to get a list of output
devices?

Kyle


On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Floris <jkfloris@xxxxxx> wrote:
> I don't get my soundcard to stop working again to do a
> good test, but nevertheless here is my working asound.state.
>
> I have the same strange values for the IEC958 controls, but they
> do not change when I select the Optical Raw option. The 0482000200...000
> value is also the right one for me.
>
>
>
> I think the -ao alsa:device=spdif option is build-in in mplayer
> from the mplayer manual:
>
> device=<device>
> Sets the device name. Replace any ',' with '.' and any ':' with '=' in the
> ALSA device name. For hwac3 output via S/PDIF, use an "iec958" or "spdif"
> device, unless you really know how to set it correctly.
>
>
> Floris
>
>
> Kyle Husmann schreef:
>>
>> Floris,
>>
>> Did you get a chance to check your asound.state?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kyle
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Floris <jkfloris@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have the same problems with the Creative Audigy 2 using Debian testing
>>>
>>> my "solution" is to deselect "IEC958 Optical Raw" and "Audigy
>>> Analog/Digital Output Jack"
>>> options in the alsamixer.
>>>
>>> I will look to the asound.state if there is the same difference.
>>>
>>> Floris
>>>
>>> Kyle Husmann schreef:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> With a fresh ubuntu 8.10 install, spdif output worked as expected.  I
>>>> unmuted both IEC958 and IEC958 Digital in alsamixer, and when I played
>>>> audio with mplayer, I would get audio through my spdif output.
>>>>
>>>> Then, fast forward a couple of days, and it randomly stopped working
>>>> (I have no idea what triggered this).  I would try to play something
>>>> in mplayer, and nothing would come out of the spdif output.
>>>>
>>>> However, I discovered that I could get spdif output working with the
>>>> mplayer option -ao alsa:device=spdif.  This was the only way I could
>>>> get sound to play - I tried different combinations of
>>>> alsa:device=hw=N,M (N, M being integers), but only spdif worked.
>>>>
>>>> So, I figured there was some setting that got flipped when it randomly
>>>> stopped working, and kept being set back by /etc/init.d/alsa-utils via
>>>> /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.  So, I stopped alsa-utils, renamed
>>>> asound.state, and restarted the computer, hoping that all previous
>>>> settings would be blown away.  Even though a new asound.state was
>>>> created, and many of the volumes, etc, looked reset (like the master
>>>> volume was muted), other volume levels did not seem to be touched.
>>>> Additionally, this "hidden setting" was also still wrong - mplayer
>>>> would only play with device=spdif.
>>>>
>>>> After a lot of trial and error, and running a lot more programs, (like
>>>> speaker-test), this magic setting flipped back (who knows when) and
>>>> mplayer started working again (it would play audio through spdif by
>>>> default as well as when I used alsa:device=hw=0,M and
>>>> alsa:device=spdif).  Because my old non-working asound.state was
>>>> saved, I could identify the exact setting.  I've attached the diff as
>>>> asound.diff.  By manually changing this setting by stopping the
>>>> alsa-utils service, chaning the setting and then starting the
>>>> alsa-utils service, I can toggle between the two behaviors I've been
>>>> experiencing (mplayer working by default, and mplayer needing the
>>>> alsa:device=spdif in order to work).  Since both asound.state files
>>>> have the exact same levels in alsamixer, how the heck do I properly
>>>> make this setting?  What do the numbers in the setting mean?
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any knowledge or ideas that could bring some sanity to
>>>> my situation, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>> PS:
>>>>
>>>> To add to the mystery here, I've also included the output of aplay -L
>>>> and aplay -l (it's the same for both asound.state files).  Nowhere in
>>>> here do I see any mention of spdif or of iec958.  So why is mplayer
>>>> working with alsa:device=spdif?  Where is that going to?
>>>>
>>>> % aplay -l
>>>> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
>>>> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
>>>>  Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>> card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital]
>>>>  Subdevices: 1/1
>>>>  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
>>>>
>>>> % aplay -L
>>>> default:CARD=NVidia
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    Default Audio Device
>>>> front:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    Front speakers
>>>> surround40:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
>>>> surround41:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
>>>> surround50:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
>>>> surround51:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
>>>> surround71:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia, ALC888 Analog
>>>>    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
>>>> hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
>>>>    HDA NVidia
>>>>    HDMI Audio Output
>>>> null
>>>>    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
>>>>
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>                name 'HD Analog Front Playback Volume'
>                value.0 0
>                value.1 0
>        }
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>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD Analog Rear Playback Volume'
>                value.0 0
>                value.1 0
>        }
>        control.219 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD Analog Center/LFE Playback Volume'
>                value.0 0
>                value.1 0
>        }
>        control.220 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD Analog Side Playback Volume'
>                value.0 0
>                value.1 0
>        }
>        control.221 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD SPDIF Front Playback Volume'
>                value.0 230
>                value.1 230
>        }
>        control.222 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD SPDIF Rear Playback Volume'
>                value.0 209
>                value.1 209
>        }
>        control.223 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD SPDIF Center/LFE Playback Volume'
>                value.0 230
>                value.1 230
>        }
>        control.224 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 2
>                comment.range '0 - 255'
>                comment.dbmin -5175
>                comment.dbmax 1200
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD SPDIF Side Playback Volume'
>                value.0 222
>                value.1 222
>        }
>        control.225 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type ENUMERATED
>                comment.count 1
>                comment.item.0 SPDIF
>                comment.item.1 I2S
>                comment.item.2 SRC48
>                comment.item.3 SRCMulti_SPDIF
>                comment.item.4 SRCMulti_I2S
>                comment.item.5 CDIF
>                comment.item.6 FX
>                comment.item.7 AC97
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD source Capture'
>                value AC97
>        }
>        control.226 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type ENUMERATED
>                comment.count 1
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>                comment.item.1 '1'
>                comment.item.2 '2'
>                comment.item.3 '3'
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'HD channel Capture'
>                value '0'
>        }
> }
> state.Bt878 {
>        control.1 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type INTEGER
>                comment.count 1
>                comment.range '0 - 15'
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'Capture Volume'
>                value 0
>        }
>        control.2 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type BOOLEAN
>                comment.count 1
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'Capture Boost'
>                value false
>        }
>        control.3 {
>                comment.access 'read write'
>                comment.type ENUMERATED
>                comment.count 1
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>                comment.item.1 FM
>                comment.item.2 Mic/Line
>                iface MIXER
>                name 'Capture Source'
>                value 'TV Tuner'
>        }
> }
>
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