Uh, wow. I plugged it in, ubuntu recognized it and it was available for me to use... So far I've used it for midi and writing to ardour. I'll write up an ubuntu howto. There was some needed tweaking to improve latency and playback, but it was fairly easy once I figured out how. The JACK configuration tool that comes with UbuntuStudio is priceless. I wouldn't have been able to do it without it. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Kristian Dalgard <k.dalgard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > That would be great! If you end up with everything working, I could > just copy your setup...! > > The X-Station is a fantastic piece of equipment owned by many people. > The sooner this is working, the sooner those people might consider > using Linux :) > > > > 2008/4/11, Daniel Green <octoberdan@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > I am also trying to get my X-Station working. I'm running Hardy Heron > > / UbuntuStudio with their "low latency" kernel: 2.6.24-15. I haven't > > tried getting it to work yet as I'm still searching for a suitable USB > > cable, but I'll keep you posted with my progress. Perhaps we can all > > help each other. > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Kristian Dalgard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is sounding suspiciously like a problem with the usb driver on > > > that > > > > > machine, rather than a problem with your specific soundcard. > > > > > What version of Linux are you running on that machne-- what kernel, > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am running Kubuntu Gutsy but have tried the beta of Hardy as well > > > > without success. My kernel version is "2.6.22-14-generic". > > > > > > > > Some guy wrote somewhere that his X-Station used to work up until a > > > > couple of releases of Ubuntu ago - but I don't know what important > > > > changes there's been to snd-usb-audio in recent times. I'm not sure > > > > where to see my version of snd-usb-audio either. > > > > > > > > > > > > > remove arts. Kill it and see if that helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Killing the process artsd doesn't help. I have tried uninstalling it > > > > but due to some dependency-sh* every one of my applications and KDE > > > > itself were removed. I had to start all over. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but just do killall artsd > > > Then do ps aux|grep artsd to make sure it is no longer running. > > > > > > > > > I cannot really help further, except that this seems to be a usb bus > > > problem I would not expect usb-audio module to cause trouble. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Killing pulseaudio and then trying to start it (undaemonized), by > > > > typing "pulseaudio" in shell, prints this (and the other stuff that I > > > > pasted in my preliminary post): > > > > > > > > E: module-alsa-sink.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Operation > > > > not permitted > > > > E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: > > > > "device=hw:1"): initialization failed. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/11, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Kristian Dalgard wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will try to be much more brief :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know why my external usb sound card - a Novation > > > X-Station - > > > > > > doesn't work properly? It should be supported, but many things crash > > > when > > > > > > trying to output to it - and both aRts and PulseAudio refuses to work > > > with > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Support for the device in snd-usb-audio is described here: > > > > > > http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3114 > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kristian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/6, Kristian Dalgard <k.dalgard@xxxxxxxxx>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > The presence of you gives me new hope in my desperate journey for > > > > > > > outputting sound through my Novation X-Station in a reasonable > > > manner... a > > > > > > > manner that is system wide and doesn't cause applications to crash. > > > This > > > > > > > journey is becoming a long one despite the fact that my device is > > > officially > > > > > > > supported by the snd-usb-audio driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is sounding suspiciously like a problem with the usb driver on > > > that > > > > > machine, rather than a problem with your specific soundcard. > > > > > What version of Linux are you running on that machne-- what kernel, > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The last four days I have struggled with understanding the many > > > (often > > > > > > > very confusingly referenced) layers in producing sound on my > > > system. I have > > > > > > > installed stuff, compiled kernel-stuff and edited numerous > > > config-files. And > > > > > > > I have grown a lot wiser. But I have also grown more and more > > > convinced that > > > > > > > something is amiss deep down at the driver level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm running Kubuntu 7.10, ALSA (libasound2) version 1.0.14. I have > > > an > > > > > > > internal Intel sound card besides my X-Station, which is a USB > > > device. I > > > > > > > definitely consider myself a newbie in the world of Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For reference, the pages linked to below this paragraph describe > > > the > > > > > > > driver my card is using and another person's problem which may be > > > the same > > > > > > > as mine. I have also seen mailing list posts about the successful > > > > > > > development of support for my device (and the Novation ReMOTE, > > > which should > > > > > > > be similar). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3114 > > > > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/148815 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, a short recap of my troubles: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon a clean install of Kubuntu my "XStation" shows up in KMix very > > > nicely > > > > > > > alongside my internal devices. It takes me quite a while though to > > > figure > > > > > > > out how to make it the active device, which I end up doing with > > > "asoundconf > > > > > > > set-default-card XStation" as the card shows up (again, quite > > > nicely) on > > > > > > > "asoundconf list" with that name. > > > > > > > This immediately produces sound when playing a wma-audio (I know, > > > RAS > > > > > > > syndrome) file in Amarok. When trying to play an mp3, after > > > installing mp3 > > > > > > > support (Xine or something), Amarok crashes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After a reboot, which I thought would in some way consolidate my > > > new > > > > > > > choice of default card, the aRts soundserver (artsd) crashes upon > > > logging > > > > > > > into KDE. (aRts seems like a terrible choice for KDE anyways, > > > doesn't > > > > > > > it...?) Artsd keeps crashing every few seconds but, as far as I can > > > remember > > > > > > > now, I am actually able to play some files in Amarok. I quickly do > > > a > > > > > > > "reset-default-card", though, as being constantly interrupted by a > > > > > > > crash-infobox is frustrating to say the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > remove arts. Kill it and see if that helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I try disabling my Intel sound card in BIOS, but it only switches > > > focus in > > > > > > > my to some kind of tv-card sound device, which doesn't help at > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Way too many hours of Googl'ing later, I try downgrading ALSA to > > > version > > > > > > > 1.0.13. This pays off in a way that sort of moves my problems > > > around a > > > > > > > bit. I am able to play mp3s (with the sound being output through my > > > > > > > X-Station, of course) but having trouble with other sources and > > > various > > > > > > > stuff crashes spontaneously... I then try compiling and applying > > > version > > > > > > > 1.0.16 on my kernel with somewhat the same general results, and > > > lastly I do > > > > > > > a full reinstall of the beta version of Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy. The > > > last move is > > > > > > > to make sure everything ALSA is included and tested by others. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > During all of my attempts (which include other dead ends advised in > > > > > > > different places) I have tried editing relevant conf-files > > > including adding > > > > > > > my device to .asoundrc in the ways described in forum posts and > > > articles and > > > > > > > setting and resetting asoundconf default-card. But it seems that > > > aRts never > > > > > > > really works with my device and other applications either crash, > > > produce > > > > > > > sound for less than a second, do not produce sound at all or ... > > > play just > > > > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have made a very comprehensive installation of PulseAudio on > > > my > > > > > > > system. I have followed every step in the official guide, and all > > > in all > > > > > > > this seems like a very nice setup. The "Volume Control" utility > > > seems to > > > > > > > work great and my applications produce sound - all on my internal > > > sound > > > > > > > card. My X-Station on the other hand is not even listed under > > > "sinks" in the > > > > > > > volume control util. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The absence of the X-Station is not unexpected, though, although it > > > still > > > > > > > shows up in KMix; when running pulseaudio un-daemonized in console > > > I get a > > > > > > > lot of errors which I think at least hint of the level of my > > > problem. The > > > > > > > output is as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kristian@medion:~$ pkill pulseaudio > > > > > > > kristian@medion:~$ pulseaudio > > > > > > > W: main.c: WARNING: called SUID root, but not in group 'pulse-rt'. > > > > > > > E: module-alsa-sink.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Operation > > > not > > > > > > > permitted > > > > > > > E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: > > > > > > > "device=hw:1"): initialization failed. > > > > > > > E: module-alsa-source.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: > > > Operation not > > > > > > > permitted > > > > > > > E: module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: > > > > > > > "device=hw:1"): initialization failed. > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 48000 > > > Hz. > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find mixer control "Capture". > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic". > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 48000 > > > Hz. > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find mixer control "Capture". > > > > > > > W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic". > > > > > > > E: sound-file.c: Failed to open file > > > > > > > /usr/share/sounds/gtk-events/activate.wav > > > > > > > E: main.c: Failed to load sound file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kristian@medion:~$ aplay -l > > > > > > > **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** > > > > > > > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog] > > > > > > > Subdevices: 0/1 > > > > > > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > > > > > > card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 > > > Digital] > > > > > > > Subdevices: 1/1 > > > > > > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > > > > > > card 1: XStation [XStation], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] > > > > > > > Subdevices: 1/1 > > > > > > > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not able to say in what way PulseAudio, ALSA, aRts, the ALSA > > > kernel > > > > > > > drivers and the USB layer is linked together - in fact, I am pretty > > > confused > > > > > > > about this - but it seems to me, that the trouble begins in trying > > > to > > > > > > > communicate with the device at driver level. The X-Station does > > > produce > > > > > > > sound in certain situations, which really adds to my frustration, > > > and > > > > > > > support for the device has been added/checked with the driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Making this work is very important to me and the only real problem > > > I'm > > > > > > > having with Kubuntu so far. I really hope someone here is able to > > > help. And > > > > > > > I sincerely apologize for my verbosity, it is getting quite late > > > here in > > > > > > > Denmark... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for reading, anyway! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kristian Dalgård > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > William G. 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