Re: Novation X-Station

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>  That is sounding suspiciously like a problem with the usb driver on that
>  machine, rather than a problem with your specific soundcard.
>  What version of Linux are you running on that machne-- what kernel, etc.

I am running Kubuntu Gutsy but have tried the beta of Hardy as well
without success. My kernel version is "2.6.22-14-generic".

Some guy wrote somewhere that his X-Station used to work up until a
couple of releases of Ubuntu ago - but I don't know what important
changes there's been to snd-usb-audio in recent times. I'm not sure
where to see my version of snd-usb-audio either.

>  remove arts. Kill it and see if that helps.

Killing the process artsd doesn't help. I have tried uninstalling it
but due to some dependency-sh* every one of my applications and KDE
itself were removed. I had to start all over.

Killing pulseaudio and then trying to start it (undaemonized), by
typing "pulseaudio" in shell, prints this (and the other stuff that I
pasted in my preliminary post):

E: module-alsa-sink.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Operation
not permitted
E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument:
"device=hw:1"): initialization failed.

Thanks


2008/4/11, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Kristian Dalgard wrote:
>
>
> >  I will try to be much more brief :)
> >
> >  Does anyone know why my external usb sound card - a Novation X-Station -
> >  doesn't work properly? It should be supported, but many things crash when
> >  trying to output to it - and both aRts and PulseAudio refuses to work with
> >  it.
> >
> >  Support for the device in snd-usb-audio is described here:
> >  http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3114
> >
> >  Please help.
> >
> >  Kristian
> >
> >
> >  2008/4/6, Kristian Dalgard <k.dalgard@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > >
> > >  Dear List,
> > >  The presence of you gives me new hope in my desperate journey for
> > >  outputting sound through my Novation X-Station in a reasonable manner... a
> > >  manner that is system wide and doesn't cause applications to crash. This
> > >  journey is becoming a long one despite the fact that my device is officially
> > >  supported by the snd-usb-audio driver.
> > >
> >
>
>  That is sounding suspiciously like a problem with the usb driver on that
>  machine, rather than a problem with your specific soundcard.
>  What version of Linux are you running on that machne-- what kernel, etc.
>
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >  The last four days I have struggled with understanding the many (often
> > >  very confusingly referenced) layers in producing sound on my system. I have
> > >  installed stuff, compiled kernel-stuff and edited numerous config-files. And
> > >  I have grown a lot wiser. But I have also grown more and more convinced that
> > >  something is amiss deep down at the driver level.
> > >
> > >  I'm running Kubuntu 7.10, ALSA (libasound2) version 1.0.14. I have an
> > >  internal Intel sound card besides my X-Station, which is a USB device. I
> > >  definitely consider myself a newbie in the world of Linux.
> > >
> > >  For reference, the pages linked to below this paragraph describe the
> > >  driver my card is using and another person's problem which may be the same
> > >  as mine. I have also seen mailing list posts about the successful
> > >  development of support for my device (and the Novation ReMOTE, which should
> > >  be similar).
> > >
> > >  http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3114
> > >  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-utils/+bug/148815
> > >
> > >
> > >  Now, a short recap of my troubles:
> > >
> > >  Upon a clean install of Kubuntu my "XStation" shows up in KMix very nicely
> > >  alongside my internal devices. It takes me quite a while though to figure
> > >  out how to make it the active device, which I end up doing with "asoundconf
> > >  set-default-card XStation" as the card shows up (again, quite nicely) on
> > >  "asoundconf list" with that name.
> > >     This immediately produces sound when playing a wma-audio (I know, RAS
> > >  syndrome) file in Amarok. When trying to play an mp3, after installing mp3
> > >  support (Xine or something), Amarok crashes.
> > >
> > >  After a reboot, which I thought would in some way consolidate my new
> > >  choice of default card, the aRts soundserver (artsd) crashes upon logging
> > >  into KDE. (aRts seems like a terrible choice for KDE anyways, doesn't
> > >  it...?) Artsd keeps crashing every few seconds but, as far as I can remember
> > >  now, I am actually able to play some files in Amarok. I quickly do a
> > >  "reset-default-card", though, as being constantly interrupted by a
> > >  crash-infobox is frustrating to say the least.
> > >
> >
>
>  remove arts. Kill it and see if that helps.
>
>
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >  I try disabling my Intel sound card in BIOS, but it only switches focus in
> > >  my  to some kind of tv-card sound device, which doesn't help at all.
> > >
> > >  Way too many hours of Googl'ing later, I try downgrading ALSA to version
> > >  1.0.13. This pays off in a way that sort of moves my problems around a
> > >  bit. I am able to play mp3s (with the sound being output through my
> > >  X-Station, of course) but having trouble with other sources and various
> > >  stuff crashes spontaneously... I then try compiling and applying version
> > >  1.0.16 on my kernel with somewhat the same general results, and lastly I do
> > >  a full reinstall of the beta version of Kubuntu 8.04 Hardy. The last move is
> > >  to make sure everything ALSA is included and tested by others.
> > >
> > >  During all of my attempts (which include other dead ends advised in
> > >  different places) I have tried editing relevant conf-files including adding
> > >  my device to .asoundrc in the ways described in forum posts and articles and
> > >  setting and resetting asoundconf default-card. But it seems that aRts never
> > >  really works with my device and other applications either crash, produce
> > >  sound for less than a second, do not produce sound at all or ... play just
> > >  fine.
> > >
> > >  Now I have made a very comprehensive installation of PulseAudio on my
> > >  system. I have followed every step in the official guide, and all in all
> > >  this seems like a very nice setup. The "Volume Control" utility seems to
> > >  work great and my applications produce sound - all on my internal sound
> > >  card. My X-Station on the other hand is not even listed under "sinks" in the
> > >  volume control util.
> > >
> > >  The absence of the X-Station is not unexpected, though, although it still
> > >  shows up in KMix; when running pulseaudio un-daemonized in console I get a
> > >  lot of errors which I think at least hint of the level of my problem. The
> > >  output is as follows:
> > >
> > >
> > >  kristian@medion:~$ pkill pulseaudio
> > >  kristian@medion:~$ pulseaudio
> > >  W: main.c: WARNING: called SUID root, but not in group 'pulse-rt'.
> > >  E: module-alsa-sink.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Operation not
> > >  permitted
> > >  E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument:
> > >  "device=hw:1"): initialization failed.
> > >  E: module-alsa-source.c: Failed to set hardware parameters: Operation not
> > >  permitted
> > >  E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-source" (argument:
> > >  "device=hw:1"): initialization failed.
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 48000 Hz.
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find mixer control "Capture".
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic".
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: device doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 48000 Hz.
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find mixer control "Capture".
> > >  W: alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic".
> > >  E: sound-file.c: Failed to open file
> > >  /usr/share/sounds/gtk-events/activate.wav
> > >  E: main.c: Failed to load sound file.
> > >
> > >  kristian@medion:~$ aplay -l
> > >  **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
> > >  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC882 Analog [ALC882 Analog]
> > >    Subdevices: 0/1
> > >    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > >  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC882 Digital [ALC882 Digital]
> > >    Subdevices: 1/1
> > >    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > >  card 1: XStation [XStation], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
> > >    Subdevices: 1/1
> > >    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
> > >
> > >
> > >  I am not able to say in what way PulseAudio, ALSA, aRts, the ALSA kernel
> > >  drivers and the USB layer is linked together - in fact, I am pretty confused
> > >  about this - but it seems to me, that the trouble begins in trying to
> > >  communicate with the device at driver level. The X-Station does produce
> > >  sound in certain situations, which really adds to my frustration, and
> > >  support for the device has been added/checked with the driver.
> > >
> > >  Making this work is very important to me and the only real problem I'm
> > >  having with Kubuntu so far. I really hope someone here is able to help. And
> > >  I sincerely apologize for my verbosity, it is getting quite late here in
> > >  Denmark...
> > >
> > >  Thank you for reading, anyway!
> > >
> > >  Kristian Dalgård
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>  --
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