Even the Fedora soundcard detection tool is not outputting any sound for me, although my sound is working perfectly (this time around). The tool used to work just fine. I am going to reopen that bug and see if someone can straighten this out. I'd like to hear from anyone else having this problem (some boots the sound works, some boots it doesn't) On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 09:54 -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2007, Wolfgang P. Rauchholz wrote: > > > I agree I would also say i is a bug. Especially as in Ubuntu it works out of > > the box with no problem. > > For which I guess it is an issue related to Fedora and not alsa. > > But I must admit also I am everything but an IT expert. > > Do Fedora and Ubuntu use different versions of alsa? That could explain > it. It could also be a difference in the setup scripts on the two machines. > (That would certainly not be an alsa bug) > > To see if it is really a Fedora problem, you could download the latest > alsa-drivers compile them and install them. On the other hand, the fact > that it sometimes works makes one suspect that it is not an alsa drivers > problem. However RedHat has been known to destroy programs by not > understanding them and sticking in "improvements". > > > > > > > > > > > Brian L Scipioni wrote: > >> Glad I saw this, this exact problem has been driving me crazy for a > >> while. Sometimes the sounds works, sometimes it does not. > >> > >> I noticed that the bug report has been closed - NOTABUG. a configuration > >> problem. I'm sorry, but when the sound does not work on an > >> out-of-the-box install, something is just plain broken. > > > The question is what is that "something"? > > > >> > >> So the solution is for everyone to examine all their modules to > >> determine the correct loading sequence, and then blacklist certain > >> modules? I can't believe they left it at that. > > Sometimes that is all you can do. > However you could tell us-- does this fix the problem? > Note that there are two intel8x0 modules, the m one and the one without an > m. It could be that the recognition routine on Fedora simply does not get > it right which one to use, and maybe even tells the system to load both ( > which could well be a disaster.) > > > > >> > >> Can someone here voice an opinion: is this an ALSA issue or fedora > >> issue? Why does it just happen to certain select people (I assume it is > >> a rare problem). > > There is some code in alsa which looks up the names of the users on the > machine and using a certain algorithm decides which users to insert broken > code for. :-) > > Anyway, if it really is that snd-intel8x0 works and snd-intel8x0m does not, > and that Fedora tells the system to use the latter, then it is a Fedora > issue. It is not identifying the card correctly. > > > > > > > >> > >> thanks, > >> brian > >> > >> > >> On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 22:16 +0100, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz wrote: > >> > >> > Problems seems to be fixed by adding the following line t > >> > o/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: > >> > blacklist snd-intel8x0m > > So, what module is actually used? > > > >> > > >> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389521 > >> > > >> > Thanks for your efforts Bill and Nigel. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Nov 28, 2007 8:56 AM, Wolfgang Paul Rauchholz > >> > <wp.rauchholz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > I booted the laptop and there is no sound. > >> > As mentioned before, the sound/no-sound situation occurs at > >> > random to me. I cannot recognize any pattern. > >> > The reason I have not taken out PulseAudio yet is that I > >> > suffered the same problem under FC6/FC7 for which I moved to > >> > Ubuntu 7.x where sound ran stablel. Therefor my hypothesis is > >> > that there is probably an issue with FC and not PulseAudio?? > >> > > >> > I went to sound card detection and played the test sound with > >> > known result; no sound. The screen shows the following info: > >> > Vendor: Intel Corporation > >> > Model: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio > >> > Controller (rev 03) > >> > Module: snd-intel8x0 > >> > ... > >> > PCM device: Intel 82801DB-ICH4 > >> > > >> > > >> > 1. alsamixer > >> > Card: PulseAudio Chip: PulseAudio > >> > View: [Playback] Capture All > >> > Item: Master > >> > > >> > There is one bar in the center of the screen. From the bottom > >> > to top the values are: > >> > <Master>, 65<>65, 00 > >> > The channel is not muted. > >> > 2. [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# /sbin/lsusb > >> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 004 Device 001: ID > >> > 0000:0000 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Bus 002 Device 002: > >> > ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 > >> > 3. > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# yum install alsa-lib > >> > Setting up Install Process > >> > Parsing package install arguments > >> > Package alsa-lib - 1.0.15-1.fc8.i386 is already installed. > >> > Nothing to do > >> > > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# rpm -q alsa-lib alsa-lib-1.0.15-1.fc8 > >> > > >> > > >> > 4. > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# > >> > aplay /usr/lib/firefox-2.0.0.9/res/samples/test.wav > >> > Playing WAVE '/usr/lib/firefox- > >> > 2.0.0.9/res/samples/test.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 22050 Hz, > >> > Mono > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# > >> > aplay /usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/gallery/sounds/horse.wav > >> > Playing WAVE > >> > '/usr/lib/openoffice.org/share/gallery/sounds/horse.wav' : > >> > Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono > >> > .....but I hear no no sound > >> > > >> > 5. > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# more /etc/modprobe.conf > >> > > >> > alias eth0 8139too > >> > alias scsi_hostadapter libata > >> > alias scsi_hostadapter1 ata_piix alias eth1 ipw2200 > >> > alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 options snd-card-0 index=0 > >> > options snd-intel8x0 index=0 > >> > > >> > > >> > 6. > >> > [root@MGPRJRWR ~]# cat /proc/asound/cards > >> > > >> > 0 [I82801DBICH4 ]: ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4 > >> > Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with VIA1612A at irq > >> > 9 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > 7. extract from /vat/log/messages > >> > ... > >> > Nov 28 08:13:27 MGPRJRWR kernel: agpgart: Detected an Intel > >> > 855PM Chipset. > >> > ... > >> > Nov 28 08:13:27 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel_rng: FWH not detected ... > >> > Nov 28 08:13:27 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: > >> > measured 50940 usecs Nov 28 08:13:27 MGPRJRWR kernel: intel8x0: > >> > clocking to 48000 > >> > Nov 28 08:13:27 MGPRJRWR kernel: Unable to initialize codec #0 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > But I also found these messages in the same file > >> > Nov 28 08:28:04 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_write 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2 Nov 28 08:28:05 MGPRJRWR kernel: > >> > codec_write 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2 > >> > Nov 28 08:30:55 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_write 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2 > >> > Nov 28 08:30:55 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_write 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2 Nov 28 08:30:56 MGPRJRWR kernel: > >> > codec_read 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2c > >> > Nov 28 08:38:19 MGPRJRWR pulseaudio[2264]: module-alsa-sink.c: > >> > Error opening PCM device hw:0: Device or resource busy > >> > Nov 28 08:38:36 MGPRJRWR pulseaudio[2264]: module-alsa-sink.c: > >> > Error opening PCM device hw:0: Device or resource busy > >> > Nov 28 08:54:04 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_read 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2c > >> > > >> > > >> > Nov 28 08:54:04 MGPRJRWR kernel: codec_read 0: semaphore is > >> > not ready for register 0x2c; this record was created when > >> > plying the the test sound in sound card detection. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Nov 28, 2007 12:00 AM, Bill Unruh <unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > wrote: > >> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: > >> > > >> > > On Tuesday 27 November 2007 21:09, you wrote: > >> > > > Nigel, > >> > > > > >> > > > sound is not working now. > >> > > > I ran report again and checked differences. There > >> > are 4 loaded modules > >> > > > missing: > >> > > > vfat, fat, usb_storage and usblp > >> > > >> > > >> > None of this has anything to do with sound. > >> > > >> > Run alsamixer. What does it say. As he mentioned, make > >> > sure that nothing is muted and that all sliders are at > >> > least half way up. > >> > You can always refine things later. > >> > > >> > Then run aplay with some .wav file as the source > >> > and see if there are any responses, error messages, > >> > etc, and see if there -- Dr. Brian L Scipioni 909 Austin Ave Atlanta, GA 30307 home: 404.525.8911 cell: 404.771.3740 brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: The Future of Linux Business White Paper from Novell. From the desktop to the data center, Linux is going mainstream. 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