On 25-11-07 17:17, Vladimir Mosgalin wrote: > On 2007.11.25 at 15:22:59 +0100, Rene Herman wrote next: > >> That 16 kHz -60dB is just about my threshold with good headphones, good card >> set to 0 dB and external amplication cranked up. -57 I hear always, at -60 >> it's a little flaky. At those levels, 12-0dB actively hurts... > > Well it's not like it means a lot, without knowing resulting loudness of > the signal Yes, that was the intro. dBSPL is the objective measure, but what that ends up as for any setting of slider anywhere is dependent on each component in the path, including the final one (the headphones). My headphone amp has a dB scale that I can adjust from 0 to -infinity and while with the specific attached headphones it's very loud at 0, it's not soo insanely loud that I consider it complete madness. Tolerable for short periods of time with regular music that is. From that, I assume it's probably somewhere between 110 and 120 dBSPL for 0 dBFS (*). (*) dB Full Scale, with 0 being the maximum. Good CDs are mastered at around (max) -12 dbFS average although unfortunately since 2000 or so the music industry has completely lost their senses and you nowadays find quite a few CDs at as bad as -6 dBFS average meaning you have exactly one bit left for your entire dynamic range, which you then have to range-compress to fit it in! Google "Loudness War" and write to your senator(s)... those idiots are destroying modern music. Rene. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user