On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Eron Lloyd wrote: > On 11/3/07, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Saturday 03 November 2007 21:35, Eron Lloyd wrote: >>> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Nigel Henry wrote: >>>> On Saturday 03 November 2007 19:25, Eron Lloyd wrote: >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to get my Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 external USB >>>>> sound card to work with OpenSUSE 10.3, but I cannot find the drivers >>>>> for it, specifically the snd_usb_caiaq module. It doesn't show up in >>>>> YaST, but I remember reading that this version of ALSA includes >> those >>>>> drivers. Is there any reason OpenSUSE wouldn't include them? Could I >>>>> manually link this driver from the source? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Eron >>>> >>>> Hi Eron. I don't run SuSe, but I've just looked on my Debian Etch >>>> install, where I recently upgraded the Alsa driver to 1.0.15 (current >>>> stable) just for practice, and looking in >>>> /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/kernel/sound/usb, the snd-usb-caiaq module >>>> exists. checking on an earlier kernel >>>> (2.6.18-4-686) where I havn't upgraded alsa to 1.0.15, the >> snd-usb-caiaq >>>> module doesn't exist. >>>> >>>> Which is your current alsa driver? Run, >>>> cat /proc/asound/version >>>> Before I upgraded the alsa driver, IIRC it was 1.0.12rc2 for this >> Debian >>>> kernel. >>>> >>>> The module you want may have just recently been added to the alsa >> driver, >>>> and upgrading the alsa driver may resolve your problem. Link below. >>>> http://alsa-project.org/ >>>> >>>> I've only practiced upgrading the Alsa driver on Fedora, Archlinux, >> and >>>> Debian, but you at least need the kernel headers installed for your >>>> running kernel. >>>> >>>> With Archlinux, the headers were all I needed. >>>> With Fedora, I needed the headers, and the kernel-devel package. >>>> With Debian, installing the headers also pulled in linux-kbuild-2.6.18 >>>> (obviously for the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel that I was going to upgrade the >>>> alsa driver against) >>>> >>>> Have a go at upgrading the alsa driver, as it may well resolve your >>>> problem. and please post back with which packages need to be installed >> to >>>> carry out this procedure on SuSe. >>>> >>>> Once you have downloaded the latest alsa driver, cd to it's location, >> and >>>> simply run, >>>> ./configure >>>> followed by >>>> make >>>> su to root, and then, >>>> make install >>>> >>>> Personally I reboot after all that has completed, and checking with, >>>> cat /proc/asound/version >>>> should now show the 1.0.15 version installed, and just maybe your >> problem >>>> is resolved. >>>> >>>> All the best. >>>> >>>> Nigel. >> >>> Hello Nigel, >>> >>> First off, thanks for the response. I've built ALSA 1.0.15 from source >> (all >>> packages) and restarted the machine. Calling /proc/asound/version indeed >>> gives me: >>> >>> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.15. >>> Compiled on Nov 3 2007 for kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default (SMP) >>> >>> and the driver I seek, snd-usb-caiaq.ko, is indeed present in the >> directory >>> >>> /lib/modules/2.6.22.9-0.4-default/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq/ >>> >>> When attempting to configure it using the system tool YaST, however, I >>> can't see it in the list. Is there a way I could manually configure it >>> using alsa tools? Should I copy the module to the parent directory where >>> the other snd-usb-*.ko files are? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Eron Lloyd >> >> Hi Eron. As I've said I don't have a SuSe install. I'm on dialup and it >> takes >> some time to download the iso's, but I've done this for Fedora. perhaps I >> should do this for SuSe. At least I will know how it works then. >> >> Back to your problem. What is the output of lsmod (maybe /sbin/lsmod), and >> do >> you have any entries for the soundcard in /etc/modprobe.conf?. if the >> module >> is showing as loaded in lsmod, you may just have to adjust settings in >> alsamixer (install alsa-utils if you don't already have it installed). >> Just >> start alsamixer on the CLI (konsole) (Terminal). Often sound is muted as >> default, to save your speakers, and ears. The "M" key toggles the >> mute/unmute >> >> To see if the card is detected, and particularly if you also have an >> onboard >> soundcard, post the output of the command below. >> cat /proc/asound/cards >> >> Nigel. >> Once again depmod -a modprobe snd-usb-caiaq should install it and you should see snd-usb-caiaq in lsmod If not look at the end of dmesg_tail just after you do modprobe to see if there are any error messages. > > Hello Nigel, > > Well, hopefully we can resolve this on my system for both our knowledge. The > output of > cat /proc/asound/cards yields: > > 0 [A1 ]: snd-usb-caiaq - Audio Kontrol 1 > Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 (serial > SN-SN-8CXD0HYT7W, usb-0000:00:1d.7-3) Well, it seems to be installed. > 1 [Control ]: USB-Audio - TotalTrack Control > Numark TotalTrack Control at usb-0000:00:1d.2-2, full > speed > > Where 0 is the card I'm attempting to configure and 1 is a MIDI controller > (which isn't important). I don't see anything related in /etc/modprobe.conf, > and lsmod reports these (possibly) relevant entries: > > Module Size Used by > snd_pcm 75780 4 > snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq > snd_usb_lib 19584 1 snd_usb_audio > snd_rawmidi 27136 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_usb_lib > snd_hwdep 12932 2 [wrap] > snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_pcm,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep > usbcore 123756 8 > snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usb_caiaq,usb_storage,snd_usb_lib,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd But I do not se it here, but then again you probablydid not list all of the lsmod entries that start with snd ldmod|grep snd > > Finally, alsamixer returns "No mixer elems found". I wonder what influence That is not good. Look in dmesg > YaST's sound module might have, as there is an internal card (snd-hda-intel) > configured as the default. Too bad, I feel like we're getting closer... > > Thanks, > > Eron > -- William G. Unruh | Canadian Institute for| Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy | Advanced Research | Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC | Program in Cosmology | unruh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Canada V6T 1Z1 | and Gravity | www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ _______________________________________________ Alsa-user mailing list Alsa-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-user