On 11/3/07, Nigel Henry <cave.dnb2m97pp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Saturday 03 November 2007 21:35, Eron Lloyd wrote:
> On Saturday 03 November 2007, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Saturday 03 November 2007 19:25, Eron Lloyd wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I'm trying to get my Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 external USB
> > > sound card to work with OpenSUSE 10.3, but I cannot find the drivers
> > > for it, specifically the snd_usb_caiaq module. It doesn't show up in
> > > YaST, but I remember reading that this version of ALSA includes those
> > > drivers. Is there any reason OpenSUSE wouldn't include them? Could I
> > > manually link this driver from the source?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Eron
> >
> > Hi Eron. I don't run SuSe, but I've just looked on my Debian Etch
> > install, where I recently upgraded the Alsa driver to 1.0.15 (current
> > stable) just for practice, and looking in
> > /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/kernel/sound/usb, the snd-usb-caiaq module
> > exists. checking on an earlier kernel
> > (2.6.18-4-686 ) where I havn't upgraded alsa to 1.0.15, the snd-usb-caiaq
> > module doesn't exist.
> >
> > Which is your current alsa driver? Run,
> > cat /proc/asound/version
> > Before I upgraded the alsa driver, IIRC it was 1.0.12rc2 for this Debian
> > kernel.
> >
> > The module you want may have just recently been added to the alsa driver,
> > and upgrading the alsa driver may resolve your problem. Link below.
> > http://alsa-project.org/
> >
> > I've only practiced upgrading the Alsa driver on Fedora, Archlinux, and
> > Debian, but you at least need the kernel headers installed for your
> > running kernel.
> >
> > With Archlinux, the headers were all I needed.
> > With Fedora, I needed the headers, and the kernel-devel package.
> > With Debian, installing the headers also pulled in linux-kbuild-2.6.18
> > (obviously for the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel that I was going to upgrade the
> > alsa driver against)
> >
> > Have a go at upgrading the alsa driver, as it may well resolve your
> > problem. and please post back with which packages need to be installed to
> > carry out this procedure on SuSe.
> >
> > Once you have downloaded the latest alsa driver, cd to it's location, and
> > simply run,
> > ./configure
> > followed by
> > make
> > su to root, and then,
> > make install
> >
> > Personally I reboot after all that has completed, and checking with,
> > cat /proc/asound/version
> > should now show the 1.0.15 version installed, and just maybe your problem
> > is resolved.
> >
> > All the best.
> >
> > Nigel.
> Hello Nigel,
>
> First off, thanks for the response. I've built ALSA 1.0.15 from source (all
> packages) and restarted the machine. Calling /proc/asound/version indeed
> gives me:
>
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.15.
> Compiled on Nov 3 2007 for kernel 2.6.22.9-0.4-default (SMP)
>
> and the driver I seek, snd-usb-caiaq.ko, is indeed present in the directory
>
> /lib/modules/2.6.22.9-0.4-default/kernel/sound/usb/caiaq/
>
> When attempting to configure it using the system tool YaST, however, I
> can't see it in the list. Is there a way I could manually configure it
> using alsa tools? Should I copy the module to the parent directory where
> the other snd-usb-*.ko files are?
>
> Regards,
>
> Eron Lloyd
Hi Eron. As I've said I don't have a SuSe install. I'm on dialup and it takes
some time to download the iso's, but I've done this for Fedora. perhaps I
should do this for SuSe. At least I will know how it works then.
Back to your problem. What is the output of lsmod (maybe /sbin/lsmod), and do
you have any entries for the soundcard in /etc/modprobe.conf?. if the module
is showing as loaded in lsmod, you may just have to adjust settings in
alsamixer (install alsa-utils if you don't already have it installed). Just
start alsamixer on the CLI (konsole) (Terminal). Often sound is muted as
default, to save your speakers, and ears. The "M" key toggles the mute/unmute
To see if the card is detected, and particularly if you also have an onboard
soundcard, post the output of the command below.
cat /proc/asound/cards
Nigel.
Hello Nigel,
Well, hopefully we can resolve this on my system for both our knowledge. The output of
cat /proc/asound/cards yields:
0 [A1 ]: snd-usb-caiaq - Audio Kontrol 1
Native Instruments Audio Kontrol 1 (serial SN-SN-8CXD0HYT7W, usb-0000:00:1d.7-3)
1 [Control ]: USB-Audio - TotalTrack Control
Numark TotalTrack Control at usb-0000:00:1d.2-2, full speed
Where 0 is the card I'm attempting to configure and 1 is a MIDI controller (which isn't important). I don't see anything related in /etc/modprobe.conf, and lsmod reports these (possibly) relevant entries:
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm 75780 4 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq
snd_usb_lib 19584 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi 27136 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_usb_lib
snd_hwdep 12932 2 [wrap] snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_caiaq,snd_pcm,snd_usb_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
usbcore 123756 8 snd_usb_audio,usbhid,snd_usb_caiaq,usb_storage,snd_usb_lib,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
Finally, alsamixer returns "No mixer elems found". I wonder what influence YaST's sound module might have, as there is an internal card (snd-hda-intel) configured as the default. Too bad, I feel like we're getting closer...
Thanks,
Eron
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