capture or mic on channel 3 and 4 howto?

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hi all,

let's say i want qarecord to use channel 3 and 4 of my delta1010 lt (8 
i/o). this should be easy, but i asked many time on irc channel #alsa, 
looked into the mailing list archive and didn't found any information. 
in qjackctl it's easy like click and drag.

anyone know how to do this?
patrick

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