On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:24:15AM +0200, Alex Lyakas wrote: > Hi Dave, > Thank you for your comments. > I realize now that what I proposed cannot be done; I need to > understand deeper how XFS transactions work (unfortunately, the > awesome "XFS Filesystem Structure" doc has a TODO in the "Journaling > Log" section). > > Can you please comment on one more question: > Let's say we had such fully asynchronous "fire-and-forget" discard > operation (I can implement one myself for my block-device via a > custom IOCTL). What is wrong if we trigger such operation in > xfs_free_ag_extent(), right after we have merged the freed extent > into a bigger one? I understand that the extent-free-intent is not > yet committed to the log at this point. But from the user's point of > view, the extent has been deleted, no? So if the underlying block > device discards the merged extent right away, before committing to > the log, what issues this can cause? Think of what happens when a crash occurs immediately after the discard completes. The freeing of the extent never made it to th elog, so after recovery, the file still exists and the user can access it. Except that it's contents are now all different to before the crash occurred. IOWs, issuing the discard before the transaction that frees the extent is on stable storage means we are discarding user data or metadata before we've guaranteed that the extent free transaction is permanent and that means we violate certain guarantees with respect to crash recovery... Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Chinner david@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs
