Re: X on embedded Systems

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On Sat, 6 Nov 2004, Hasen_A wrote:

> How come i receive the mailing list messages of other people with other
> topics? Is that supposed to happen?
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Hamilton" <mhamilton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <xfree86@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:13 PM
> Subject: RE:  X on embedded Systems
>
>
> > What's the difference between running startx and Xfree86? I was able to
> > run Xfree86 pretty quickly. Is there a way to load Xfree86 then start
> > twm afterwards?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:mvojkovi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:41 PM
> > To: xfree86@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE:  X on embedded Systems
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004, Michael Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > > Yes I am using startx. I am using a relatively fast 1gig Compact Flash
> > > (still slower than a hard drive though) and a ricoh EB1 1.4Ghz
> > > Processor.
> >
> >    It might just be the time it takes to read the flash.  That
> > stuff's pretty slow.  But with 512 Meg of ram, I'd expect it to be
> > considerably faster the second time you started the server.
> >
> >
> > > 512 megs of ram. The ramdisk is 12 megs and loads the root file system
> > > and some libraries specific to our application. I contemplated putting
> > X
> > > in ramdisk but then ramdisk would be massive. Is there an alternative
> > to
> > > starting x without using startx? Again I am using TWM, which doesn't
> > > have very good documentation. It's possible that it is slow as well.
> >
> >    startx is OK and twm is pretty lightweight.  I suggest just
> > starting "XFree86" to see if that comes up faster (quit with
> > <ctrl><alt><bkspc>).  If XFree86 isn't faster than startx, then
> > startx is off the hook.  If you run XFree86, quit and then run
> > XFree86 again and it comes up very much faster the second time
> > then that implies that the flash is slow.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:mvojkovi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 5:49 PM
> > > To: xfree86@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE:  X on embedded Systems
> > >
> > >    Are you using startx?  If so, is it faster when running XFree86
> > > directly without any clients?
> > >
> > >    I can't recall ever seeing X start up so slowly.  How fast
> > > is this CPU?   Does this system have a disk drive?  If so, are
> > > you using DMA?  My first instinct would be that this is a disk
> > > problem or you're starting more than you think you're starting.
> > > Which XFree86 driver is this?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mark.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Michael Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > > We use twm as our windows manager and X starts up and the X sits
> > there
> > > > for ages before an xterm or anything can start up. It's about 10
> > > seconds
> > > > (consistently).
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Vojkovich [mailto:mvojkovi@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 4:05 PM
> > > > To: xfree86@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re:  X on embedded Systems
> > > >
> > > >    Is starting X a performance problem for you?  Without a window
> > > > manager it's only takes a second for XFree86 to start over here.
> > > > I thought this was fairly quick already.
> > > >
> > > > Mark.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Michael Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Can you make any suggestions on making X start up faster (or
> > appear
> > > > to)
> > > > > on an embedded system? I have already tried tweaking the font
> > > > situation
> > > > > (loading them with fontpath rather than the font server). Is it
> > > > possible
> > > > > to preload X somehow before the UI comes up, perhaps early in
> > system
> > > > > startup or in parallel with other programs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for any suggestions.
> > > > > -M
> > > > >
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