Jeff: What happens when you use ONLY the PS/2 protocol instead of the IMPS/2 protocol for the mouse buttons? Do the wheel buttons work with ZAXisMapping? Dave ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jeff Bearer <jbearer@pittsburghlive.com> Reply-To: newbie@XFree86.Org To: newbie@XFree86.Org Subject: RE: Laptop Mouse Weirdness Date: 21 Oct 2002 11:07:09 -0400 When using IMPS/2 both the internal and external mouse freaks out. I also tried without the emulate 3 buttons. Still didn't work On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 09:44, David C. Diemer wrote: > Jeff: > > Let me see if I understand you correctly. When you put the IMPS/2 > protocol onto the /dev/psaux port as defined by the link you provided > below, then your built-in mouse starts screwing up but the external > mouse works fine. And when you change the mouse protocol for /dev/psaux > to PS/2, the built-in mouse works but the scroll buttons don't. > > I did notice one possible problem with the configuration is that > "Emulate3Buttons" is turned on and you cannot do this with a wheel mouse > or, I'll guess, a built-in wheel mouse. I'd try removing the 3-button > emulation first before the protocol. > > Let me know what happens. > > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: newbie-admin@XFree86.Org [mailto:newbie-admin@XFree86.Org] On > Behalf Of Jeff Bearer > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:10 PM > To: newbie@XFree86.Org > Subject: RE: Laptop Mouse Weirdness > > David, > > Thanks for your reply, my laptop has 2 scroll buttons, that are > supposed to work like the wheel. they work in Windows, and I've read > from a few write ups on linux-laptop.net that you just need to configure > them as a wheel mouse with the Zaxis mapping. > > http://mobilix.org/toshiba_sp4600.html#ToC13 > > But anytime I try to use the IMPS/2 protocol the pointer freaks out. > > I'll have to give a USB mouse a try, I found a P2/2 to USB mouse adapter > and tried using a old (never meant to be used with USB) PS/2 mouse and I > couldn't get it to show up at all on the system. Are USB capable PS/2 > mice different than a standard PS/2 mouse? > > This probably isn't the right place for the next question, but if I'm > going out to buy a mouse, will I be able to utilize all the buttons that > are on some mice, or should I stick with a 2 button wheel mouse? > > > On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 06:33, David C. Diemer wrote: > > Jeff: > > > > Ditto on that. I have a Dell with a TrackPoint AND a TouchPad as well > > as the PS/2 port in the back where I used to plug-in my wheel mouse. > I > > setup my X to use the wheel mouse because that's what I used 90% of > the > > time. It's when I went to the computer room to do some > troubleshooting > > with my laptop that I ran into your problem. I had no place for a > mouse > > so I was forced to use the TouchPad or TrackPoint and it was pretty > > weird. > > > > The problem lies with the fact that the wheel mouse uses virtual mouse > > buttons 4 and 5 to perform wheel operations that are simply not there > > for the TouchPad / TrackPoint. Also, the PS/2 device typically > emulates > > a 3rd mouse button using the same virtual mouse buttons that the wheel > > mouse uses (ZAxisMapping "4 5"). So, there are two possibilities: 1) > > don't use a wheel mouse so you won't use the ZAxisMapping option (not > > what you're looking for) or 2) don't use 3-button emulation on your > > TouchPad / TrackPoint (better). > > > > You may still experience problems with plugging-in or unplugging the > > external mouse while in X. Unfortunately, X isn't Plug-n-Play so it > > won't recognize that you've switched mice. You must restart X > > (Ctl-Alt-Backspace) AFTER you plug-in or unplug your mouse. > > > > But I may have a better answer: use two different mice: an external > USB > > wheel mouse along with the built-in TrackPoint / TouchPad (I have a > Dell > > - it has both). To implement it, modify your XF86Config-4 file and > make > > sure you have two pointers defined: one USB mouse and the other for > the > > Trackpoint/TouchPad/PS-2 port, like this: > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "TouchPad" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > EndSection > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "USB Mouse" > > Driver "mouse" > > Option "Device" > > "/dev/input/mice" > > Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" > > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > > EndSection > > > > Then, use a ServerLayout section and specify that both mice are to be > > used, like this: > > > > Section "ServerLayout" > > Identifier "Home" > > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > InputDevice "TouchPad" "CorePointer" > > InputDevice "USB Mouse" "SendCoreEvents" > > Screen 0 "Screen LCD" > > EndSection > > > > It works! I use both the USB Mouse AND at the same time, I can also > use > > the TouchPad and the TrackPoint devices. If I unplug the USB mouse, I > > can still continue using the TouchPad and TrackPoint devices without a > > problem. Also, note that in the "TouchPad" configuration, I did NOT > > define the Emulate3Buttons option so I won't have a great deal of > > difficulty using an external wheel mouse. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: newbie-admin@XFree86.Org [mailto:newbie-admin@XFree86.Org] On > > Behalf Of Jeff Bearer > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:52 PM > > To: newbie@XFree86.Org > > Subject: Laptop Mouse Weirdness > > > > I have a Toshiba Laptop with the PS/2 Trackpoint which has scroll > > buttons. When I configure it as a wheel mouse, or when I disable the > > trackpoint and use a PS/2 wheel mouse, the pointer gets all whacked > > out. It jumps to the bottom left corner and when you move it it also > > registers tons of right and left clicks by itself. If I try to move > it > > too much it deletes my launchers and moves my menus because of all the > > random clicking. > > > > Anyway it appears that it's caused by switching the mouse protocol > from > > PS/2 to IMPS/2. Any information what anyone can tell or point me to > on > > PS/2 vs. IMPS/2 would be great. > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Bearer, RCHE > > Webmaster, PittsburghLIVE.com > > Winner 2002 Eppy Award, Best U.S. Newspaper Website > > -- > > Jeff Bearer, RCHE > > Webmaster, PittsburghLIVE.com > > Winner 2002 Eppy Award, Best U.S. Newspaper Website > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Newbie@XFree86.Org > > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Newbie@XFree86.Org > > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > -- > Jeff Bearer, RCHE > Webmaster, PittsburghLIVE.com > Winner 2002 Eppy Award, Best U.S. Newspaper Website > _______________________________________________ > > Newbie@XFree86.Org > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie > _______________________________________________ > > Newbie@XFree86.Org > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie -- Jeff Bearer, RCHE Webmaster, PittsburghLIVE.com Winner 2002 Eppy Award, Best U.S. Newspaper Website _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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