RE: Laptop Mouse Weirdness

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When using IMPS/2 both the internal and external mouse freaks out.

I also tried without the emulate 3 buttons. Still didn't work

On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 09:44, David C. Diemer wrote:
> Jeff:
> 
> Let me see if I understand you correctly.  When you put the IMPS/2
> protocol onto the /dev/psaux port as defined by the link you provided
> below, then your built-in mouse starts screwing up but the external
> mouse works fine.  And when you change the mouse protocol for /dev/psaux
> to PS/2, the built-in mouse works but the scroll buttons don't.
> 
> I did notice one possible problem with the configuration is that
> "Emulate3Buttons" is turned on and you cannot do this with a wheel mouse
> or, I'll guess, a built-in wheel mouse.  I'd try removing the 3-button
> emulation first before the protocol.
> 
> Let me know what happens.
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newbie-admin@XFree86.Org [mailto:newbie-admin@XFree86.Org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Bearer
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: newbie@XFree86.Org
> Subject: RE: Laptop Mouse Weirdness
> 
> David,
> 
> 	Thanks for your reply, my laptop has 2 scroll buttons, that are
> supposed to work like the wheel.  they work in Windows, and I've read
> from a few write ups on linux-laptop.net that you just need to configure
> them as a wheel mouse with the Zaxis mapping.
> 
> http://mobilix.org/toshiba_sp4600.html#ToC13
> 
> But anytime I try to use the IMPS/2 protocol the pointer freaks out.
> 
> I'll have to give a USB mouse a try, I found a P2/2 to USB mouse adapter
> and tried using a old (never meant to be used with USB) PS/2 mouse and I
> couldn't get it to show up at all on the system.  Are USB capable PS/2
> mice different than a standard PS/2 mouse?
> 
> This probably isn't the right place for the next question, but if I'm
> going out to buy a mouse, will I be able to utilize all the buttons that
> are on some mice, or should I stick with a 2 button wheel mouse?
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 06:33, David C. Diemer wrote:
> > Jeff:
> > 
> > Ditto on that.  I have a Dell with a TrackPoint AND a TouchPad as well
> > as the PS/2 port in the back where I used to plug-in my wheel mouse.
> I
> > setup my X to use the wheel mouse because that's what I used 90% of
> the
> > time.  It's when I went to the computer room to do some
> troubleshooting
> > with my laptop that I ran into your problem.  I had no place for a
> mouse
> > so I was forced to use the TouchPad or TrackPoint and it was pretty
> > weird.
> > 
> > The problem lies with the fact that the wheel mouse uses virtual mouse
> > buttons 4 and 5 to perform wheel operations that are simply not there
> > for the TouchPad / TrackPoint.  Also, the PS/2 device typically
> emulates
> > a 3rd mouse button using the same virtual mouse buttons that the wheel
> > mouse uses (ZAxisMapping "4 5").  So, there are two possibilities: 1)
> > don't use a wheel mouse so you won't use the ZAxisMapping option (not
> > what you're looking for) or 2) don't use 3-button emulation on your
> > TouchPad / TrackPoint (better).
> > 
> > You may still experience problems with plugging-in or unplugging the
> > external mouse while in X.  Unfortunately, X isn't Plug-n-Play so it
> > won't recognize that you've switched mice.  You must restart X
> > (Ctl-Alt-Backspace) AFTER you plug-in or unplug your mouse.
> > 
> > But I may have a better answer: use two different mice: an external
> USB
> > wheel mouse along with the built-in TrackPoint / TouchPad (I have a
> Dell
> > - it has both).  To implement it, modify your XF86Config-4 file and
> make
> > sure you have two pointers defined: one USB mouse and the other for
> the
> > Trackpoint/TouchPad/PS-2 port, like this:
> > 
> > 	Section "InputDevice"
> > 		Identifier	"TouchPad"
> > 		Driver		"mouse"
> > 		Option		"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
> > 		Option		"Protocol"		"PS/2"
> > 		Option		"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"
> > 	EndSection
> > 
> > 	Section "InputDevice"
> > 		Identifier	"USB Mouse"
> > 		Driver		"mouse"
> > 		Option		"Device"
> > "/dev/input/mice"
> > 		Option		"Protocol"		"IMPS/2"
> > 		Option		"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"
> > 	EndSection
> > 
> > Then, use a ServerLayout section and specify that both mice are to be
> > used, like this:
> > 
> > 	Section "ServerLayout"
> > 		Identifier	"Home"
> > 		InputDevice	"Keyboard0"	"CoreKeyboard"
> > 		InputDevice	"TouchPad"	"CorePointer"
> > 		InputDevice	"USB Mouse"	"SendCoreEvents"
> > 		Screen 0	"Screen LCD"
> > 	EndSection
> > 
> > It works!  I use both the USB Mouse AND at the same time, I can also
> use
> > the TouchPad and the TrackPoint devices.  If I unplug the USB mouse, I
> > can still continue using the TouchPad and TrackPoint devices without a
> > problem.  Also, note that in the "TouchPad" configuration, I did NOT
> > define the Emulate3Buttons option so I won't have a great deal of
> > difficulty using an external wheel mouse.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: newbie-admin@XFree86.Org [mailto:newbie-admin@XFree86.Org] On
> > Behalf Of Jeff Bearer
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:52 PM
> > To: newbie@XFree86.Org
> > Subject: Laptop Mouse Weirdness
> > 
> > I have a Toshiba Laptop with the PS/2 Trackpoint which has scroll
> > buttons.  When I configure it as a wheel mouse, or when I disable the
> > trackpoint and use a PS/2 wheel mouse, the pointer gets all whacked
> > out.  It jumps to the bottom left corner and when you move it it also
> > registers tons of right and left clicks by itself.  If I try to move
> it
> > too much it deletes my launchers and moves my menus because of all the
> > random clicking. 
> > 
> > Anyway it appears that it's caused by switching the mouse protocol
> from
> > PS/2 to IMPS/2.  Any information what anyone can tell or point me to
> on
> > PS/2 vs. IMPS/2 would be great.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jeff Bearer, RCHE
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