At 05:43 PM 10/8/2002 -0400, you wrote: More progress: For some reason, startx has somehow appeared in the setup even though I did not install it by my own free will. Usually, XFree86 (v4.2+) is installed without the wrapper and one can run xdm. So, I guess I'll just be content to use startx as root or user - no problem Thanks for your help. If anyone can explain what has happened with xdm and startx, I'd be curious to understand.... :)) Phil _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie