Ok, here's one: With FreeBSD 4.5 I never had this problem. I am now running 4.6, and on two boxes (with different hardware, graphics and otherwise) and am getting this symptom: No error messages at all--the log has NO complaints. X begins to load the mouse (in both cases USB mice, which worked with FBSD4.5 / X4.2.0), and simply stops. No freezing the system, no warnings, error messages, just nothing. The last line of the log is: baud rate=1200... Hardware: box1: Athlon 1200, 512 DDR Matrox G400 Microsoft Optical Wheel Mouse (USB) FreeBSD 4.6r, XFree86-4.2.0 box2: K6-350, 230MB ATI 3D Rage Turbo Logitech Optical Wheel Mouse (USB) FreeBSD 4.6r, XFree86-4.2.0 Both worked so well with FreeBSD 4.5...any ideas, help? Thanks in advance, Joshua Lokken _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie