So simply use the port forwarding X11 feature in say 'SecureCRT' on the Windows Client that also runs Hummingbird or similar? That's no problem I just need to know how what I have to do to allow the 'server' to send x-sessions to the 'client' i.e. obviously X needs to be installed but does xdm need to be running etc etc By client: A Windows Machine running X Software that will present apps running on the 'server' such as OpenView etc etc By Server: A Unix Server running apps such as OpenView and Visual Traceroute that requires X to their displays in Darren -----Original Message----- From: Ted Spradley [mailto:tsprad@spradley.org] Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 10:50 AM To: newbie@XFree86.Org Subject: Re: [Newbie]X with NO desktop? On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 09:22:56 +1000 Darren Ward <darren.ward@nttaus.com.au> wrote: > Well 99% of the time there will be no keyboard, mouse or video > attached to the server and it'll be remotely managed, rebooted etc > > Last time I ran X on a server the window manager kept crapping out > because it couldn't see any attached devices and so X wouldn't start. > > I'm trying to avoid that and avoid running a graphical interface on > the client that I presume will consume resources I could use for other > apps. OK, that clarifies things. What you mean by "server" is a machine that provides some other services, but not X11. It's not quite so clear what you mean by "client". You seem to mean a machine that has a keyboard and display, but not a graphic user interface. If you don't want to run an X server on that client machine (the one with the keyboard), then you don't want X at all. Just use rlogin or ssh or telnet. You have no need to install X on either machine. If I misunderstood, and you really want to be able to run X clients (like xterm) on the "server" machine connected to an X server running on your desktop workstation machine, then again, no problem. You need to install the X clients on the "server" machine, but you do *not* want to run an X server on that machine. You need to run the X server on the desktop machine, and tell it to allow the "server" machine to connect to that X server. Then use rsh or ssh to start X clients on the server machine, directing them to use the display on the desktop machine. -- Remember, more computing power was thrown away last week than existed in the world in 1982. -- http://www.tom.womack.net/computing/prices.html _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie