No. Cygwin/XFree86 needs quite a bit of extra work to support this mode called 'rootless'. Alan. On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:12:03PM -0500, Cheshire Cat wrote: > > > What I meant by 'desktop' is the window that XFree86 runs in. > > When I run 'startx' on command line (e.g. in a Cygwin bash process, kicked > off by cygwin.bat), a large window pops up entitled 'Cygwin/XFree86'. This > is different from eXceed in that when eXceed starts it displays a brief > splash then runs quietly on the taskbar - when any x app is started it > displays in it's own window which floats among all other windows, rather > than running inside of a larger window as is the case with XFree86. > > The nice thing about that arrangement is that I can tile ms-windows apps > next to x apps. I don't want a Linux-like desktop (cute KDE control > panels, etc) - I just want xterms and x apps (running locally or remote) to > play nicely with windows apps. So again, the nice thing about that is that > I can work with Windows apps and x apps tiled side by side without having > this huge 1024x768 x-server window blocking out much of my Windows desktop. > > The reason I like xterms over Cygwin's bash process because I grew up on > them. I prefer the plain 100 dpi fonts, select/paste functions, keyboard > mapping, etc. I could (and do) use some well made terminal progs like > SecureSRT. > > eXceed is now up to version 7.1. I have 6.1 but I've been using XFree86 > recently and just thought I'd ask whether it can be started in this > run-separate-windows sort of mode. > > I installed KDE 2.2.1 just for fun, but it loads the cpu. I tried XFCE > which is much lighter on the cpu (again, both running in the giant X-server > window) but their cygwin precompiled bundle was missing a lot. I've also > tried compiling their latest version, but now I'm realizing that cygwin > development environment is a bit weak - I can't get any of the following > packages to compile: GTK+, libiconv, glib, pkgconfig, etc. (not ported > versions - these are the generic Linux sources so they probably wont > compile without a bit of effort) > > --Chesh > > > Ted Spradley wrote: > > > > On Mon, 01 Apr 2002 13:20:44 -0500 > > Cheshire Cat <cheshirecat@covad.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can XFree86 run as a no-desktop X server? > > > > It's not clear what you mean by "desktop" here. You can certainly run X > > with no window manager, try it. Just start an xterm instead of a window > > manager in your .xinitrc or .xsession. I think you'll find that when > > you start more clients, all the windows will be placed at 0,0 and you'll > > have no way to switch focus among them or move them around. > > > > > That is to say can it > > > behave like Hummingbird's eXceed version 6.x, where there isn't any X > > > desktop or window manager to speak of - X apps just popup onto the > > > Windoze environment (I guess there's still a window manager, but it > > > just manages each X window - not a desktop; perhaps that behavior is > > > due to an eXceed proprietary wm (?) > > > > I believe what's going on here is that window management services (focus > > and placement) are provided by MS-Windows. > > > > What are you trying to accomplish? I think you'll find that if you want > > to run more than one client concurrently, you'll want some sort of > > window manager. There are some very small, simple, light-weight ones > > out there. I personally like Blackbox, but there are some that are even > > smaller and simpler. Look around at http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ > > > > Also bear in mind that the window manager has no more need than any > > other client to run on the same host as the server. You can put your > > window manager on any convenient host and start it automatically when > > you log into the X server host. > <snip> > > _______________________________________________ > > Newbie@XFree86.Org > *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie
