On 14/01/2020 20:14, Drew DeVault wrote: > On Tue Jan 14, 2020 at 1:13 PM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >> I'd never heard of matrix.org and don't have an opinion either way. I >> do find IRC useful. Proxies make it much more useful, and if I have a >> choice, I'd rather not pay $50/year to irccloud just for a permanent >> presence. >> >> I'd be interested to hear the details of your NACK, because they'd >> likely be informative and useful to me. > > $50/year is offset by one fewer cup of coffee per month. > Given that we are a global community, you can't take the US living standard as an argument that something is affordable to everyone. > In any case, bouncers are not as necessary as they might seem. The idea > of an infinite backlog encourages you to keep up with discussions you > missed, which is a bad way of approaching IRC. Docs don't live in IRC, > projects don't live in IRC, tickets don't live in IRC - any discussion > that people shouldn't be fine with missing should be summarized and > forwarded to a more appropriate medium. > > I use a bouncer mainly because IRC is such an important part of my life > that it's helpful for organization, and it's nice for people to be able > to drop me a quick note while I'm offline. Nice, but easily replaced > with email for anyone without a bouncer. > I use both matrix and IRC, you can use matrix as a IRC bouncer but it got blocked on some channels. Anyway I don't think that IRC is a must-have in our community as you can always fall-back to email. That holds at least for the part of the kernel I'm involved. So, from my point of view, no need for action. Regards, Matthias
