Thanks. Will also have a look at phped etc., and primary issue for me with eclipse is that while am not sure, think it may have been developed using java, and while have java access bridge turned on/enabled, eclipse interface doesn't cooperate too much as far as I'm concerned, and myself, generally/primarily just work within text editors of sorts, but, will check out these other options. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... ----- Original Message --------------- Subject: RE: Forms of debugging/variable tracking From: "Arno Kuhl" <arno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 12:37:43 +0200 To: "'Jacob Kruger'" <jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'php-windows'" <php-windows@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 31 July 2014 10:11 AM To: php-windows Subject: Forms of debugging/variable tracking On my windows7 64 bit machines, am generally working using XAMPP, etc., and now while still trying to disentangle other people's old code, am trying to, possibly look into forms of debugging/variable watching while working through large portions of code, etc. etc. Anyway, found referral to/mention of xDebug, and entries in php.ini file relating to it, but, not really sure how/if it's meant to offer any forms of real-time debugging help, etc. etc.? Now, know/understand that primary issue might be that things like breakpoints/code execution pauses, etc., might not be simplest, and what have done thus far is simply put together my own couple of functions to include in various locations, to then just dump things like variable contents/values into .txt files, to sort of scan through any changes, etc., but, was wondering what other suggestions/thoughts guys might have relating to what might be feasible? And, also seemed like eclipse PHP tweaked version might try cooperate with xDebug, or something but am firstly not sure if have implemented xDebug's correct implementation within XAMPP, and, secondly, I have never been comfortable/done much with eclipse - any version, but anyway..? TIA Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA ...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet... -- I use a debugger DBG in a commercial IDE (PhpED) which is also available as a stand-alone debugger in their TechPlatform package, never used it stand-alone so can't comment on it, but integrated in their IDE it's excellent. And there's a support forum. I think you can set up DBG to work with Eclipse. http://www.nusphere.com/products/techplat.htm I've read that XDebug is also very good integrated in Eclipse, no experience with it but it's been around for quite a while now so no doubt it's slick and stable. Worth giving it a try, it's great working with a decent integrated IDE once you get the hang of it, better than the sum of its parts. Cheers Arno -- PHP Windows Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php